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You might have better luck getting "God" removed by requesting that "Allah"
and "Jah" be added. All or nothing.
AMH
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Male First Generation American For Variety, Freedom, And Tolerance In The
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Dan Dobson
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Preamble to the Constitution to the Pledge of
Allegiance
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I think AHainult misunderstood my position. I
wholeheartedly support separation of church and state,
and believe in it completely.
My problem is pledging allegiance to a piece of cloth,
that has often been a symbol of war and violence, and
often used for Jingoistic purposes. But if you read my
original comment, I suggested adding the Preamble to
the Constitution, to the pledge, not instead of, as
the author suggested.
I would much rather pledge allegiance to the
Constitution, which is the whole basis for our
country and our freedom(s). I believe in the
Constitution much more than I believe in a flag. I
have spent hours studying the Constitution, decisions
relating to it and how it protects us. I have never
done that with a flag.
However I do like Eva's idea and would support it. But
why not do both? The pledge with "God" removed and the
Preamble to the Constitution?
Dan Dobson
Saint Paul
--- Eva Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 01:33 PM 3/29/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Index of SPPS Budget Discussion
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> >I find nothing clumsy (nor less patriotic) with the
> following:
> >
> >I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United
> States of America and to the
> >Republic, for which it stands, one nation,
> indivisible, with liberty and
> >justice for all.
> >
> >What is it about the separation of church and state
> that is so hard to
> >embrace?
>
>
> I don't get that either. Why doesn't the SPPS say
> that version of the
> pledge? That would be an interesting thing to do -
> and what would be
> really hilarious is if the legislature tried to pass
> a law to require the
> "under god" portion of the pledge be included.
>
> Eva
>
>
> Eva Young
> Near North
> Minneapolis
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Blog is up:
> http://lloydletta.blogspot.com
>
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