I have suggested that we do, indeed, reclaim the land around Ayd Mill Road for other purposes. In fact, I suggested that the land be used for a celebration of a oppressed minority group culture, background and heritage.
I did this last year. I believe that the land is owned by the railroad, there eniment domain is what is called for. R. Hanson. St. Paul. --- brian bates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > there actually is precedent - the banning of semis > on I 35 E, though > i've seen som lately - but the better way to protect > our city is by > limiting the use of our streets through traffic > calming and if possible > reclaiming for other uses (Ayd Mill). Brian bates, > MacGroveland > > David Shove wrote: > > > > > > >Ban SUVs in StPaul? Why not? Let StPaul exercise > local control here. It > >would have national import immediately. Other > cities might do the same. > >SUVs would lose value. The highway lobby owns the > Fed and the State. Let > >us hope not enuf of the City (council + mayor). We > know how Kelly will go > >- highway - so we'd need 5 council people. It's > nice to be able to say No > >when the Big Boys think we have no voice. > > > >--David Shove > >Roseville > > > > > >On Tue, 18 May 2004, popman wrote: > > > > > > > >>I wish that Dave Thune would start to get tough. > With > >>his proposed smoking ban on everybody's mind, how > >>about following it up with another ban that?s been > >>needed for a long, long time. What I would suggest > >>would not only alleviate traffic congestion and > lower > >>the cost of street maintenance, it would also > allow > >>gas prices to go down and improve the public > safety > >>and help protect the environment. > >> > >>How about banning SUV'S and pickup trucks in the > city > >>limits with possible exceptions for permittees? > >> > >>I drive around just about everyday and I see > nothing > >>in these gas guzzling freaks that would justify > their > >>continued existence in the city. I don't see > people > >>busy hauling anything except their own fat > behinds. > >>Trucks are made to transport payloads and not a > couple > >>of super-sized munching machines that can't fit > into a > >>correctly sized vehicle. If pickups and SUV'S are > not > >>hauling real payloads, there is no real reason for > >>their existence. > >> > >> > >> > >>If a ban were to happen, the public safety would > be > >>enhanced as well. We don't need studies and > statistics > >>to show what these monstrosities do to a > reasonable > >>sized vehicle in a accident. The sooner we get > these > >>things off the road, the safer we all, that drive > >>correctly suited cars, will be. > >> > >> > >> > >>It's time to demand the end the subsidization of > this > >>huge gas guzzlers by the general public. > >> > >>It's time to ban their use in the city of St. > Paul, or > >>at least, demand a usage tax. When these vehicles > >>cause a shortage of gas because of the gas they > >>needlessly burn, we all pay for it at the pump. > >>Why should I, driving a CORRECT vehicle for the > city > >>that recently celebrated 32.6 mpg, pay for gas > >>shortages caused by SUV'S and pickup trucks that > that > >>get only 12 mpg? > >>I didn?t cause it, they did. It's time to turn > this > >>around and let the people that want to be piggish > with > >>the gas, PAY FOR THE SHORTAGE AT THE PUMPS! > >> > >>Give them the option: Either pay up or don't drive > >>these gas pigs in OUR city!!! > >> > >> > >>R. Hanson. > >>St. Paul. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>__________________________________ > >>Do you Yahoo!? > >>SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. > >>http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ > >>_____________________________________________ > >>NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >>To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your > password - visit: > >>http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul > >> > >>Archive Address: > >> http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/ > >> > >> > >> > >_____________________________________________ > >NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your > password - visit: > >http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul > > > >Archive Address: > > http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/ > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains � Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer _____________________________________________ NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul Archive Address: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/
