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Technically, this section allows you to be ticked for a parking
violation even if your meter is plugged if you have stayed longer
than the maximum time for that meter.  That means you shouldn't be
going out to plug a meter if your meeting takes too long.  Of
course, they do not enforce that. 
 
Mike Fratto
Payne Phalen
(More experience with parking violations than I care to admit.)
 

>>> "Jim Ivey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/26/2004 9:08:08 AM >>>

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Pamela,

The relevant St. Paul legislative code reads:

"When parking meters have been installed indicating the metered
area, no
vehicle other than a commercial vehicle shall remain parked at any
time
between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 4:30 p.m. on Monday through
Saturday, in
the metered area in any one (1) parking meter space for longer than
the
period of time specifically set out for the lawful use of said
metered area
for the charge imposed. ..."

The complete text is at:

http://www.ci.stpaul.mn.us/code/lc160.html#sec160.03.


Some of the other subsections are interesting...  Maybe they're
obvious to
everyone else, but 160.08 and 160.13 never occurred to me.

Jim Ivey
Downtown Saint Paul


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Behalf Of Pam Ellison
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 9:31 AM
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Subject: [StPaul] Parking Meters now enforced on Saturdays in
downtown
SaintPaul????!!! What is going on???!!!

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Everyone:

Now I have to admit I rarely visit downtown Saint Paul,
particularly on a
weekend.  Suffice it to say, that I was more than shocked when I
went
downtown and parked on West Seventh with many other unsuspecting
souls and
got ticketed for an expired meter.  


I went down to the Grand Opening of the Farmers Market, which by
the way was
a wonderful experience and is now just a better venue all the way
around. 

I spoke to the manager of the Farmers Market and asked him when the
meter
policy had changed.  He wasn't certain, but he DID know that the
immediate
streets around the farmers market were still free.  I told him that
there
was no place to park on the immediate streets and it seemed
counter
productive, if the Farmers Market wanted people to come down, to
have the
city charge for metered parking on the weekends when that never was
the case
before. 

How did I miss that this was now the policy? 

Does the city really think that this will increase traffic downtown
and
boost the retail revenue?

Is this the way they tax for the new improvements made to the
Farmers
Market?

What is even more frustrating is that I always carry meter money in
the car
with me, should I need it.  It just never occurred to me that the
meters
were in force.   

Again, the Saint Paul crew ruins the experience of the downtown
experience!

How can I protest this ticket?  I hope my city councilman, Lee
Helgen is
lurking along with Dave Thune and everyone else.  Is this something
you all
voted for?  Or is this just something that occurred without your
knowledge?
If so, then how was the change communicated to people?

It now just added a tab of $23.00 to my originally conservative
Farmers
Market bill.  Not to mention the time and parking it will cost me
to protest
it. 

Pamela Ellison
Como Park
Saint Paul
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