I think that Hwy 94 would be preferable as well, because you could run it from Woodbury to Wayzata and beyond and have a heavy rail commuter rail that could go up Willmar way and beyond if desired.
Pamela Ellison Como Park Saint Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Dobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "St. Paul Issues Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:15 AM Subject: [StPaul] Light Rail on University (Yes Or No) - Lite Rail ALONGI-94! > I have been meaning to respond to this recent thread > before now, but I will reiterate the points I made > about Lite Rail in Saint Paul about 2 years ago. > > 1. I firmly support light rail in Saint Paul, but > believe that light rail down University Avenue will be > a disaster. The light rial corridor in Saint Paul > should be along I-94, along either St. Anthony Avenue > or Concordia Avenue and not University. Look at the > delays in Minneapolis. If we build lite rauil down > University Avenue, we will never get the suburbinites > out of their cars. > > This is for two reasons. Look at Chicago, Portland and > the D.C. Metro. In Chicago the "El" goes along the Dan > Ryan, the Kennedy and The Eisenhower Expressways. > Where they mix with street traffic they are either > elevated or underground. I don't believe that at > anyplace in Chicago does the "El" mix with street > traffic. Ditto for the D.C. Metro, BART in the Bay > Area, St. Louis or New York City. Lite rail and street > traffic DO NOT MIX! > > In Portland where the light rail mixes with traffic > downtown, it is slow and ponderous. Once the light > rail gets beyond the Rose Center and and parallels > I-90 it zips along. > > O.K. I'm way over 150 words here. > > Light rail in St. Paul, along I-94, then across the > old Railroad bridge by the Shiners Hospital at East > River Road, Parallel to Lake Street at 28th, merge at > the Hiawatha - Lake Street Station, then west along > the Minneapolis Greenway eventually out to Chaska and > Shakopee. East along I-94 eventually Easy to Hudson > and East along the Phalen corridor to Stillwater. > > We need to think what do we want this system to look > like in 25 - 50 - 100 years from now. How will we get > people out of their cars? What will we do when gas > hits $5.00 - $7.00 a gallon by 2050? > > Dan Dobson > Saint Paul > > --- List Manager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Let's try something a little different. > > > > Keeping in mind that our list is probably not > > representative of the > > city as a whole, I'd like to ask as many people as > > possible to post > > their opinion on the following question - with a > > brief explanation. > > > > I understand that the question is overly simplistic, > > in that no > > dollar figure is attached. But, we'll assume for the > > sake of argument > > that this will require a substantial investment by > > local tax payers. > > > > ================================================= > > Vote: YES or NO > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > 1) Based on what you know today, would you like to > > see a light rail > > system built in St. Paul ALONG - University Ave. > > (similar to the > > Hiawatha corridor system)? > > > > YES or NO > > > > Optional: short explanation of vote (or caveat). > > 150 words or less > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > NOTE: I'll compile all the replies and share them > > with the group - IF they include a YES or NO vote > > and IF they keep their explanation to less than > > 150 words. > > > > You may send your votes to me in private and I'll > > add them to the public list. So you don't have to > > waste a post. 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