The blow by blow account of the city council meeting on the tobacco
ordinance bears little relationship to the tepid account in the Saint
Paul paper.  Interested citizens deserve more of the story.

The hearing was supposed to be one hour, 30 minutes for each side
because there were 2 ordinances on the table.  The normal hearing is 15
min for each side.  When Bostrom withdrew his ordinance without warning,
Kathy L. said the hearing would now be the standard 30 Min.  I can not
speak for the alcohol/tobacco folks, but our side was prepared to offer
30 minutes of testimony.  We quickly pared it down with everyone getting
to speak who planned to speak but giving much shorter testimony.
Presenting were a health economist who talked about the research on what
happens when smoking bans are put in place.  Then there were a bar
tender and a server who both had asthma and had to change jobs or limit
their work because of 2nd hand smoke.  Maria Jette, the classical
singer, presented and ended with a dramatically sung, "make St. Paul
smokefree."   The CEO of Regions Hospital, a physician at Family Tree
and another citizen with asthma that is worsened by 2nd hand smoke then
spoke.  Our last speaker had about 20 seconds and Kathy let her complete
her statement so we went over by a minute or two.  Then the stuff
started!

The second speaker for the opposition appeared to be a disturbed woman
who was hard of hearing.  She read from an old newspaper article.  And
she just kept reading.  Kathy tried to stop her, but she kept reading.
Members of the tobacco/alcohol side saw their time being eaten up and
began loudly calling for the woman to sit down.  Kathy finally told the
audience she thought the woman could not hear.  Kathy tried several more
time to get her to stop but the reading continued.  I think it was Bob
Kessler who approached her and tried to get her to stop.  Eventually the
woman moved a short distance from the podium and Kessler (?) used this
opportunity to back her away from the podium.  I do not believe this
time counted against the opposition.  The next several speakers
testified that these restrictions would hurt business or was an
unnecessary intrusion in private behavior.

When they ran out of time one speaker remained and Kathy said she did
not want to have her good friend, Pat Flury,  not having a chance to
speak so gave him a couple of minutes to speak.  The speaker proceeded
to disrespect the council, saying that this process had been the worst
he had ever seen.  He thought Dave Thune used to be a good guy but had
been kidnaped by aliens, the "gang of four" were not listening to him.
After about 5 minutes he sat down and Dave began to read a letter into
the record which had been sent to the council by Minneapolis
Councilmember Samuels.  The tobacco/alcohol side began heckling him.
Several people began loudly talking.   Nick Mancinni wandered to the
podium saying he wanted to speak.  Kessler tried to get him to sit
down.  Mancinni refused.  Throughout the reading of the letter efforts
were made to get Nick to return to his seat. Further, the noise coming
from the tobacco/alcohol camp continued.  Finally someone from that side
of the room convinced Nick to take his seat.  This disruption made it
impossible for most people in the room to actually hear the letter being
read.

Then Jay attempted to make a short statement about the legal consequence
of bars not taking action to protect their employees from a known health
hazard.  The heckling became louder.  Personal and insulting statements
were loudly hurrled at Jay and the council.  The folks on that side of
the room began loudly standing up and milling around.


The meeting had largely disintegrated. What council members were saying
could no longer be heard by the remaining audience, the police in the
room made no effort to deal with the situation.  I saw no effort by
anyone to return the meeting to proper decorum nor respectful discourse.

The whole thing was upsetting, marked a new low in public discourse and
was frankly a bit frighteneing.

The opposition appeared well defined by their own behavior.
Jeanne Weigum, Merriam Park

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Jeanne Weigum
651-646-3005
fax 651-646-0142



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