On the family money issue - Clearly there can be an economic advantage to
not having to buy a 2nd car (that is if the bus goes where you need it to go
when you need it to go there).  What people could do with this cash is
anyone's guess (how big is the PowerBall??) but as someone who is
maintaining a home and paying good chunk of the health insurance premium for
a family of 4 I can tell you what I'm doing with the cash I'm saving.

On the pollution issue - Charles Swope has noted the efficiency gains.  But
I'd also argue moving pollution CAN be important. To bring this topic back
to St. Paul - on Monday the Minnesota Citizen's for Environmental Advocacy
was at the W7th community center presenting their plans to map the
correlation between children's asthma attacks and a school's proximity to
heavily traffic arteries in St. Paul.  Studies in other states have shown
higher rates of asthma hospitalizations among children living within 200
meters of high traffic density roads.  (Contact MCEA public health scientist
Samuel Yamin for specific information on the scientific basis and goals of
this study - see www.mncenter.org for info).  

Now you may think 'Of course the air is more polluted around high traffic
roads - why the heck waste the time & effort on something like this. '
Well...It's one thing to be able to say this happens in California - It's
quite another to be able to point to schools and streets and kids right here
in St. Paul to document that it is a problem here.  

I'm not saying transit is THE solution to this problem - but it certainly
can be part of the solution.

PS - On Eric's note about the State Auditor's Report date - I stand
corrected - though it should be the 2000 Local Highway Finance Report (if
anyone is interested).  My mistake.

Kevin Somdahl Sands - Administrator - Transit for Livable Communities
Midway resident

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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:47:01 -0800 (PST)
From: John Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [StPaul] Vision for Transit

> - giving families the option to take the money they would have spent on an
> additional car and instead spend that money on other things - like
investing in a home or paying their health care bills

I wanted to buy in until the above statement.  Maybe i am naive but are
there really people out there buying 2nd automobiles instead of buying a
home and or paying their health care bills?

I so suppose that it has come to where you need to sensationalize the issue
to win arguments.  

on the pollution, doesn't it really just move where the pollution occurs? 
creating electricity, creates pollution.

john harris
camden



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