Thanks you for your input Mr Darling.
Its tough to convince conservatives who believe that
government shouldn�t do anything but sit on its hands
until some nuts blow something up, that government
does have a role in looking out for its people but,
I�ll try:
1.A business does own the property but not in the
sense
that a homeowner does. There is an agreement with the
city on what type of business will be conducted and
many regulations with that type of operation.
It�s why we have a license and inspections department,
to make sure your business is doing business that way
WE have agreed it should be done in St Paul(that's the
key). Businesses that don�t like that are free to go
to Minneapolis or South Dakota.
We regulate grade of meat, capacity inside venues,
weight limits on elevators, hours of operation,
citizenship of employees, disposal of waste and other
things for the safety of our consumer/citizens. If it
is proven that second hand smoke is enough of a danger
that it drags (no pun intended) on the quality of life
or health of more than that one citizen that is
getting pleasure from it- then something needs to be
addressed.
Smoking is not a right, owning a business is not a
right, they are both regulated priviledges.
Individual rights do not trump on the rights of the
collective. Government is there to be sure the
collective rights are intact. The Bill of Rights
addresses our individual rights. Which leads me to the
second part of this.
2.You ask where the candidate Ortega gets his power to
push for a smoking ban, and then you tell us to read
the Constitution like you have. Your problem in
reading the US Constitution and Minnesota Constitution
is that you haven�t read enough of it. Follow this:
a)The 10th Amendment to the US Constitution gives
powers not delegated to the United States by the
Constitution, nor prohibited by it, to the states are
reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
b)Article XII section 4 of the Minnesota Constitution
allows our local government to adopt our own home rule
charter.
c)Sec. 3.01.of the St Paul City Charter says the
executive power shall be vested in the mayor. Ortega
is running for Mayor (hence, where he may get the idea
that he�ll be constitutionally within his duties). He
supports a smoking ban. Simple as that.
Mr Darling goes on to say: �I ran for Congress once so
I have the credibility to make this next statement.
Please read at minimum the US Constitution and the
Minnesota Constitution before making the decision to
run. If you cannot agree with the basic doctrines
this nation and state were founded on, please do not
run until you are able and willing to hold your
governance within those basic confines.�
---
I say that you need to stop skipping the parts you
don�t like and when you�re really ready to talk about
abuse to the Constitution, lets discuss the President.
Then we can discuss the disposal of the 1st, 4th, 5th,
6th, and 8th Amendments under George W. Bush.
Welcome to St Paul.
Eric Mitchell
Payne Phalen
--- Darling Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Dear Mr. Ortega,
>
> Before I begin, I do not smoke or inhale anything
> other than air and whatever is in the air. I would
> not vote for you for Mayor of St. Paul if I lived
> there simply because of your belief system. You
> believe it is OK for you to infringe on the private
> property rights and civil liberties of business
> owners
> and individuals just because you feel like it. I
> also
> would not vote for the current mayor for the same
> reasons. The US Constitution and Minnesota
> Constitution do not give you the power as an elected
> official to do that or at least that is how I read
> it.
> Please enlighten me if I am reading these previous
> mentioned Constitution's incorrect. Maybe the Mayor
> of St. Paul does not take the oath to defend and
> protect the US Constitution and Minnesota
> Constitution
> as other elected officials and members of our armed
> forces do. Yes, there are many elected officials
> who
> do not uphold their oath at that place we call the
> Minnesota State Capitol, but that problem is being
> worked on. My former State Representative is being
> prosecuted before the Federal Courts because he
> violated his oath of office that he swore to uphold.
>
> The crimes he committed do not matter. The
> residents
> of St. Paul must hold the Mayor of St. Paul
> accountable to the oath the mayor takes upon their
> swearing in.
>
> If a business owner wants to allow smokers in their
> establishment, then fine. It is their money at risk
> in the establishment. If you and others do not like
> the smoke from smokers, start your own
> establishments
> which do not allow smoking. If memory serves me
> well,
> there are establishments in the St. Paul area which
> do
> not allow smoking on their property. It is not my
> intention to sound nasty to you Mr. Ortega if that
> is
> how this is read, but I am getting tired of you
> politicians not upholding the Constitution and
> trampling on other people's civil liberties and
> doing
> whatever you want to do just because someone votes
> you
> in office.
>
> This is for all of you running for Mayor and anyone
> else who desires to run for public office. I ran
> for
> Congress once so I have the credibility to make this
> next statement. Please read at minimum the US
> Constitution and the Minnesota Constitution before
> making the decision to run. If you cannot agree
> with
> the basic doctrines this nation and state were
> founded
> on, please do not run until you are able and willing
> to hold your governance within those basic confines.
>
> Thank you for your attention and may you all have a
> wonderful week.
>
> Michael Darling
> Rush City, MN
>
> P.S. If after reading this, those of you running
> for
> office decide to change your positions, that is
> fine.
> If you do change your positions on some issues, just
> remember to tell the public someone reminded you
> about
> the Constitution. Sometimes we all get a much
> needed
> wake up call. I had mine in February of 1993.
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