Sanctimony does not belong on this forum! Please stop it, Tim. At8ick to topics of relevance to St. Paul issues.
Bruce Leier Aurora/St. Anthony > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tim Erickson > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 02:59 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [StPaul] Randy Kelly for all of us? > > > A few personal opinions on this post: > ------------------------------------- > > At 7:07 PM -0600 4/1/05, Jacob Dorer wrote: > >I would like to respond, respectfully, to the letter by saying "What > >a crock of foul smelling effluent!" > > There was nothing respectful about this post. I spend a lot of time > trying to elevate the level of political dialogue in this city and > this kind of stuff is very discouraging. This is the kind of > political rhetoric that makes me want to leave the forum. > > Lots of people have raised very good reasons in this forum about why > they oppose Randy Kelly in the next election. One of them, quite > legitimately, was his support for George Bush. I certainly understand > how Democrats feel betrayed and expect that many of them will hold > this against him in the next election. > > However, this is the kind of attack that turns people off to politics > and the democratic party. > > I guess, I'm just naive enough to believe that there are sufficient > issues on which to differentiate the candidates and that as citizens > we can find better ways of debating the election than by posting > these kinds of insults. I repeat them here for effect: > > * "What a crock of foul smelling effluent!" > * silly trip he made with Bush, Coleman and Pawlenty > * "your story's so touching, but it sounds jes' > like a lie." > * unless you plan on turning traitor like Zell Miller > or Norm Coleman > * to make his deceit seem less treacherous > * allying yourself with the least qualified, most > partisan hack to hold office in the last 100 years > and his two toadies > * sort of dirty work > > Randy Kelly was not the only democrat in the nation to support George > Bush. Of course, similar attacks have been waged against Pro-Life > democrats. I don't blame any democrat for holding Mayor Kelly's > endorsement against him. That's their right. BUT, please don't resort > this kind of name-calling, its doesn't serve anyone - in fact it does > a real disservice to the democratic process. > > Whatever you think of Randy Kelly's endorsement. It was very public > and clear, I don't see how one can accuse him of deceit or lying (in > terms of the endorsement). Talking about "traitors" is just plain > "over the top." > > Let's save the accusations of "deceit," "treachery," and "lies" for > sins that qualify as such. What we are talking about here is a > political endorsement and it doesn't rise to any of the above. > Disagree if you will, campaign against him if you like, but please > lets try and be respectful about it. > > Best wishes, > > Tim Erickson > Hamline Midway > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ------------------------------------------------- > JOIN the St. Paul Issues Forum TODAY: > http://www.e-democracy.org/stpaul/ > ------------------------------------------------- > POST MESSAGES HERE: [email protected] > > To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: > http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul > > Archive Address: > http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/ ------------------------------------------------- JOIN the St. Paul Issues Forum TODAY: http://www.e-democracy.org/stpaul/ ------------------------------------------------- POST MESSAGES HERE: [email protected] To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul Archive Address: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/
