Bruce Perhaps. But consider:
Rule 12.334 reads "Thou shalt at all times present a flattering visage of the divinely appointed powers that be, be it justified or not. If thou canst not say something sycophantastical, thou shalt say nought. Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and also what is not. Let not a black cat cross thy path in the dark of the moon." --David Shove Roseville On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Bruce Leier wrote: > > Sanctimony does not belong on this forum! Please stop it, Tim. At8ick to > topics of relevance to St. Paul issues. > > Bruce Leier > Aurora/St. Anthony > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Tim Erickson > > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 02:59 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [StPaul] Randy Kelly for all of us? > > > > > > A few personal opinions on this post: > > ------------------------------------- > > > > At 7:07 PM -0600 4/1/05, Jacob Dorer wrote: > > >I would like to respond, respectfully, to the letter by saying "What > > >a crock of foul smelling effluent!" > > > > There was nothing respectful about this post. I spend a lot of time > > trying to elevate the level of political dialogue in this city and > > this kind of stuff is very discouraging. This is the kind of > > political rhetoric that makes me want to leave the forum. > > > > Lots of people have raised very good reasons in this forum about why > > they oppose Randy Kelly in the next election. One of them, quite > > legitimately, was his support for George Bush. I certainly understand > > how Democrats feel betrayed and expect that many of them will hold > > this against him in the next election. > > > > However, this is the kind of attack that turns people off to politics > > and the democratic party. > > > > I guess, I'm just naive enough to believe that there are sufficient > > issues on which to differentiate the candidates and that as citizens > > we can find better ways of debating the election than by posting > > these kinds of insults. I repeat them here for effect: > > > > * "What a crock of foul smelling effluent!" > > * silly trip he made with Bush, Coleman and Pawlenty > > * "your story's so touching, but it sounds jes' > > like a lie." > > * unless you plan on turning traitor like Zell Miller > > or Norm Coleman > > * to make his deceit seem less treacherous > > * allying yourself with the least qualified, most > > partisan hack to hold office in the last 100 years > > and his two toadies > > * sort of dirty work > > > > Randy Kelly was not the only democrat in the nation to support George > > Bush. Of course, similar attacks have been waged against Pro-Life > > democrats. I don't blame any democrat for holding Mayor Kelly's > > endorsement against him. That's their right. BUT, please don't resort > > this kind of name-calling, its doesn't serve anyone - in fact it does > > a real disservice to the democratic process. > > > > Whatever you think of Randy Kelly's endorsement. It was very public > > and clear, I don't see how one can accuse him of deceit or lying (in > > terms of the endorsement). Talking about "traitors" is just plain > > "over the top." > > > > Let's save the accusations of "deceit," "treachery," and "lies" for > > sins that qualify as such. What we are talking about here is a > > political endorsement and it doesn't rise to any of the above. > > Disagree if you will, campaign against him if you like, but please > > lets try and be respectful about it. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Tim Erickson > > Hamline Midway > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > JOIN the St. Paul Issues Forum TODAY: > > http://www.e-democracy.org/stpaul/ > > ------------------------------------------------- > > POST MESSAGES HERE: [email protected] > > > > To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: > > http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul > > > > Archive Address: > > http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/ > > ------------------------------------------------- > JOIN the St. Paul Issues Forum TODAY: > http://www.e-democracy.org/stpaul/ > ------------------------------------------------- > POST MESSAGES HERE: [email protected] > > To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: > http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul > > Archive Address: > http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/ > ------------------------------------------------- JOIN the St. Paul Issues Forum TODAY: http://www.e-democracy.org/stpaul/ ------------------------------------------------- POST MESSAGES HERE: [email protected] To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul Archive Address: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/
