On 30-Sep-08, at 8:05 PM, Francis Drouillard wrote:

> On Sep 28, 2008, at 7:37 PM, Michael Luscombe wrote:
>
>> On 28-Sep-08, at 7:17 PM, Chris Bischoff wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 28, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Michael Luscombe wrote:
>>>> On 27-Sep-08, at 3:11 PM, Chris Bischoff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> WTF is this "gotcha" BS you keep rattling on about?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gibson and Katie both ... Even without my bias it wasn't that
>>>>> hard to
>>>>> catch.
>>>> --
>>>> You bring it up constantly.
>>> Me?
>> --
>> You're absolutely right, Chris. I mistakenly attributed this post to
>> Francis.
>
> Do yourself a favor and listen to what Bill Katz has to say about the
> coverage of our current presidential campaign:
>
> <http://urgentagenda.com/AUDIO/AUDIO%20-%20SEPT%2008/9.30.08.AUD.html>

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I agree.

Objective truth, as much as I believe there is one, is leaving the  
"news".

I think, in some ways, that this is completely unavoidable.

I have to admit up front that I'm one of those leftist shits that  
doesn't believe in objective truth. A victory IS a matter of  
perspective, and there are 8+ billion perspectives on the planet.  
There is no possible way to have a human report the news without some  
bias unless they were to stand-off screen and read bullet points in a  
monotone voice. And you have that option. You could easily restrict  
yourself to an AP feed, which are normally shorter, fact based  
stories by local reporters. Any news station or paper will have read  
and processed these stories into editorialized pieces which do indeed  
serve a perspective.

There are plenty of conservative outposts playing the exact same  
ratings game. In fact, it has to happen that way. If your audience is  
primarily conservative, the liberal contributors are out of place,  
and receive complaints from readers and advertisers. The audience  
itself forces the views apart. Capitalism forces any profit-driven  
organization to seek out money above truth. Market driven economies  
are really a republican mainstay, and naturally drive industries away  
from seeing any problem as an ethical problem.

The tradition is that Democrats want their party to run the most  
honest campaign possible, and Republicans want their party to win at  
all costs. That's why nice guys finish last, and that's why you are  
seeing far more unrepentant liberalism lately.

I see the media and government as an adversarial arrangement. The  
media should always be questioning the government, and then  
investigating it's claims. They've been widely criticised during the  
last few years for not asking tough enough questions, and for letting  
a lot of crazy lies on to the airwaves direct from the government's  
mouth. There was a big push on the idea that being American meant not  
questioning your government, and I think a lot of news sources bowed  
to the almighty buck.

Frankly, I think Republicans have always lied this much and we just  
didn't know about it.

--
Michael


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