On Nov 20, 2008, at 9:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Heaven forbid should any scientist prove the existence of God. The  
> Darwinists simply can't have that.

Darwin also believed in God and had a long internal struggle about  
publishing his findings because of his belief. He knew that people  
would misinterpret what he was saying and use it to deny the existence  
of a God.

> Like I said, when you get to define ID, you get to knock in around  
> anyway you like. And, when we use different definitions to debate  
> the same topic, we can yell and scream and insult one another more  
> often. I'm rather sick to death of such crap, which is why I'm being  
> careful to describe my understanding of ID.
>
> But really, take a look at "Expelled," then ask yourself why  
> Darwinists are so ready to defend a theory that doesn't answer all  
> the questions it purports to answer, including the origins of life.

Darwinism does not purport to answer the question of the origin of  
life. It only addresses the (On the) Origin of Species (see, it's  
right there in the title of his book) after life had begun. Why do ID  
proponents try to claim that he was addressing the beginning of life  
itself then when that answer isn't to be found (because he never  
addressed it in the first place) use that as "proof" that his theory  
is wrong?

> Besides, how can you claim to completely understand the origins of  
> species without knowing the origins of life itself? I'm just as  
> fascinated by the evolution mechanism as any biologist, but I also  
> find the oringins of life fascinating. I'd like sceintists to  
> research that, too, and if ID is part of a multi-faceted approach to  
> answering that question, that's okay with me.

I can understand the evolution of the universe as we understand it  
today without knowing the origins of the big bang. You have to start  
someplace in your attempts to understand anything and that is usually  
with what you know then you work backwards to what you don't know.
--
Brian

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