On 25-Nov-08, at 8:40 PM, Francis Drouillard wrote:

>> I don't get it. I feel like I'm missing something.
>>
>> Do they have evidence that he murdered someone?
>>
>> it's a little early to convict, but his confession to police kinda  
>> works for me...
>
> Me too.
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Well, he confessed and then pleaded not guilty, so I'm assuming  
there's some disagreement about the confession.


>> Whether he's racist or not is somewhat besides the point. It may make
>> it a hate crime and effect sentencing, but murder is murder. To say
>> the guy is a good athlete or good with his friends is completely
>> irrelevant.
>
> Bah. Hate crime. What a load of crap. Murder is heinous when it's  
> part of a hunt. If proven guilty, twenty years to life falls short  
> of justice in my book.
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I think it goes to the state of the accused and the possibility that  
they'll re-offend. That would have a bearing on sentencing and parole  
conditions, though, not guilt or innocence.


> I agree his friends and athleticism have no bearing on his guilt or  
> innocence. Dog killers, perhaps, but not people killers:

> <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/26/sports/football/26vick.html?em>
>
> Should they let him play or make him stay? Maybe he should stay  
> inside a little longer. Anyone that can strangle a dog is capable  
> of killing a human.
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Everyone is "capable" of killing a human.

I'm not as touchy-feely about the subject of animals, though. He  
deserves to be punished in a meaningful way (being deprived of the  
privilege of a multi-million dollar NFL career permanently sounds  
like a good first step) but killing a dog just isn't the same as  
depriving a parent of their child or a family of a parent.

I would kill a dog to eat if I had no other choice, just as I might  
kill a pig or a chicken. I accept that that blood is on my hands by  
proxy every time I enjoy a big juicy steak. I wouldn't kill a human  
for the same reasons, though. There's clearly a distinct ethical line  
there.

I think you need mental attention if you kill anything for fun:  
whether it's a dog or a deer, I think there's something wrong  
upstairs. A murder based solely on racism, in my mind, is a "for fun"  
killing that points to a potential sociopath, and a good candidate  
for the death penalty.


--
Michael

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