well he is setting himself for disaster really ... there seems to be more
 expatriate New Zealanders than those

that live on the little islands  and some of the them are great big rugger
players that could well  clobber him

I don't think Aussies and Kiwis hate each other ... there is a lot of back
and forth lots of shopping in Australia by New Zealanders and trips to the
tropics lots of skiing and culture getting in New Zealand by Australians
[the Aussie Dollar is much better than the New Zealand one ...

on the  international sporting field  there is a huge rivalry  of course

and there is a New Zealand team in the major Australian league called the
Warriors

it used to be that in New Zealand there was a knee jerk inferiority complex
regards Australia .. but times have changed ...

they are definitely different places

New Zealand was settled mainly by soldiers from Britain for were sent out to
fight the Maori Wars and farmers
timber getters and fishermen mostly from the north of England   Scotland
and Wales

Australia by convicts and the soldier jail keepers and later farmers and
businessmen  but from the upper echelons  of England often the 'black sheep'
of the family was sent out to get rid of some kind of scandal

both had a Gold rush in the 19th Century but Australia's was  huge

New Zealand is more Pacific Island focused Australia is more Asian

Australia locks up refugees in detention centres surrounded  by barbed wire
in the desert
and lets them drown by the hundreds and talks of a "Pacific Solution" which
means

http://www.sievx.com/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1719808.stm

http://perth.indymedia.org/index.php?action=newswire&parentview=39449

*http://tinyurl.com/29wwwwu*

New Zealand makes citizens of them


New Zealand is officially bilingual

Australia has separate language groups

Both have 'race' issues ...

but Maori's have a treaty [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Waitangi
   ]   a place in government via proportional voting and health care

Australian Aboringionals have the 'intervention'

*http://tinyurl.com/234pv8x*
*
*
not mentioned in the above article is that whole communities  had their
[social security ]  income quarantined  and many  self help programmes were
disbanded regardless of their success  to stop self determination etc in
remote communities


Australia is xenophobic  and there is a culture of racism that is quite
horrific

i am try to think of places in the States that are like Aus and NZ

New Zealand is like San Francisco  and the arty part of Arizona [not the
desert thing of course]

Australia is like Texas and suburban Detroit

mx






On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 4:40 AM, richardsan <[email protected]> wrote:

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>
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:49 AM, M Christol <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Do Australians & New Zealenders hate each other?
>> Some buy in Kentucky said they do so he taunts them by saying Australia &
>> New Zealand are the same country.
>> He thinks it is hilarious.
>> I think it makes him (& me by association) look dumber'n shit.
>>
>
> you are
> getting
> sleepy
> verrrry sleepy
> a deep restful sleep...
>
>>
>>
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