i forgot to explain the "Pacific Solution"

it is basically outsourcing the whole refugee boat people thing offshore to
poor pacific island countries

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Solution

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/pacific-solution-no-real-answer-20100917-15gb9.html


<http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/pacific-solution-no-real-answer-20100917-15gb9.html>while
it was discontinued in 2007 there are now talks going on with Timor Este

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/some-ifs-but-timor-could-be-a-solution-20100708-10276.html

<http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/some-ifs-but-timor-could-be-a-solution-20100708-10276.html>

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:09 AM, mex sara <[email protected]> wrote:

> well he is setting himself for disaster really ... there seems to be more
>  expatriate New Zealanders than those
>
> that live on the little islands  and some of the them are great big rugger
> players that could well  clobber him
>
> I don't think Aussies and Kiwis hate each other ... there is a lot of back
> and forth lots of shopping in Australia by New Zealanders and trips to the
> tropics lots of skiing and culture getting in New Zealand by Australians
> [the Aussie Dollar is much better than the New Zealand one ...
>
> on the  international sporting field  there is a huge rivalry  of course
>
> and there is a New Zealand team in the major Australian league called the
> Warriors
>
> it used to be that in New Zealand there was a knee jerk inferiority complex
> regards Australia .. but times have changed ...
>
> they are definitely different places
>
> New Zealand was settled mainly by soldiers from Britain for were sent out
> to fight the Maori Wars and farmers
> timber getters and fishermen mostly from the north of England   Scotland
> and Wales
>
> Australia by convicts and the soldier jail keepers and later farmers and
> businessmen  but from the upper echelons  of England often the 'black sheep'
> of the family was sent out to get rid of some kind of scandal
>
> both had a Gold rush in the 19th Century but Australia's was  huge
>
> New Zealand is more Pacific Island focused Australia is more Asian
>
> Australia locks up refugees in detention centres surrounded  by barbed wire
> in the desert
> and lets them drown by the hundreds and talks of a "Pacific Solution" which
> means
>
> http://www.sievx.com/
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1719808.stm
>
> http://perth.indymedia.org/index.php?action=newswire&parentview=39449
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/29wwwwu*
>
> New Zealand makes citizens of them
>
>
> New Zealand is officially bilingual
>
> Australia has separate language groups
>
> Both have 'race' issues ...
>
> but Maori's have a treaty [
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Waitangi     ]   a place in
> government via proportional voting and health care
>
> Australian Aboringionals have the 'intervention'
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/234pv8x*
> *
> *
> not mentioned in the above article is that whole communities  had their
> [social security ]  income quarantined  and many  self help programmes were
> disbanded regardless of their success  to stop self determination etc in
> remote communities
>
>
> Australia is xenophobic  and there is a culture of racism that is quite
> horrific
>
> i am try to think of places in the States that are like Aus and NZ
>
> New Zealand is like San Francisco  and the arty part of Arizona [not the
> desert thing of course]
>
> Australia is like Texas and suburban Detroit
>
> mx
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 4:40 AM, richardsan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:49 AM, M Christol <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  Do Australians & New Zealenders hate each other?
>>> Some buy in Kentucky said they do so he taunts them by saying Australia &
>>> New Zealand are the same country.
>>> He thinks it is hilarious.
>>> I think it makes him (& me by association) look dumber'n shit.
>>>
>>
>> you are
>> getting
>> sleepy
>> verrrry sleepy
>> a deep restful sleep...
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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