On Oct 17, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Francis Drouillard wrote:

> One adverse effect of "multi-culturalism":
> 
> <http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/876260--quebec-will-win-battle-for-independence-duceppe-tells-washington>
> 
> That in a country more suited to it than, say, countries such as Italy or 
> Germany, or even France.

Are you SERIOUSLY that ignorant of the history of Quebec (or the history of 
your own country, for that matter; you might want to look up 'The French and 
Indian War') ? 

This isn't a bunch of people who immigrated, then refused to assimilate, this 
was French colony that was militarily conquered by the English, whereupon the  
descendants of the original French settlers were routinely and deeply 
discriminated against until the 50's and 60's. (at least the ones who weren't 
simply expelled from the country so the English settlers could take their 
property...<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cajun#History_of_Acadian_ancestors> ) 

> 
> In my not-so-humble-view, a very good model of multiculturalism is Detroit in 
> the 40's and 50's. Different ethnicities thrived in different "quarters" of 
> the city. The only dominant culture was good old Judeo-Christian Americanism.

The heterosexual white male protestant was boss, and everybody damn well knew 
it, and had better toe the line!

> The old-country cultures flourished as well, but in their own quarters. No 
> one was dumb enough to insist that the Greeks of Greektown endure 
> encroachment of Italian culture in their neighborhood, or that the French be 
> allowed to offend the Poles and dominate the culture in Hamtramck.
> 

"I got nothing against those [niggers, spics, wops, polacks, kikes, etc.] just 
so long as they stay in their place."

> Everyone got along pretty damn good back then,

So long as you ignore Jim Crow, lynchings, McCarthyism, and rampant and open 
discrimination against all but the WASP elite. Schools were segregated, women 
had few work opportunities outside of the home. The Army was officially 
segregated until 1948, and was only desegregated by executive order by a 
'snotty liberal' president, and only truly integrated until 1951, when the Army 
conveniently needed black men to go die for their country. And many of them 
came back from an integrated Army to face serious discrimination back home; 
this was one impetus for the rapid rise of the Civil Rioghts movement in the 
50's; pissed-off black veterans. 

There were deep societal disaffections rumbling beneath the surface that 
erupted full-bore in the 60's, and the only reason there wasn't enormous and 
widespread unrest in the 50's was a deeply repressive authoritarian culture, 
and that America was widely prosperous: union membership (and the attendant 
higher wages and good benefits) was at an all-time high, the GI bill had 
enabled millions of men to get college degrees, along with the concomitant 
increase in socioeconomic status, and the suburbs were booming, thanks to 
government-guaranteed mortgages and government-subsidized road construction. 
Making enough money to live well counteracts a lot of discrimination.

Suburbs that often had deeply engrained redlining and sunset laws in place to 
prevent minorities from moving in. The WASP's moved to the 'Burbs and everyone 
else got stuck in their ghettos.

> and we had the best of all cultures.

If you were a white, heterosexual protestant male, why yes it was. (except for 
the  As Archie Bunker sang: "Those were the days!" 

> No government or snotty liberals forcing us to live together.

No, you could rely on the white, heterosexual male power structure to make sure 
no [niggers, spics, wops, polacks, kikes, etc.] got a chance to move into YOUR 
neighborhood, and if all else failed there was always the anonymous brick with 
death threats though the front window, police harassment, or burning cross on 
the front lawn.

Man, I knew there was a deep strain of white supremacy in the modern 
conservative ranks, but I didn't realize just how close it was to the surface. 

You and the rest of the white male heterosexual protestant conservatives are 
whimperingly, cringingly, shitting your pants TERRIFIED at becoming a minority 
in this country, because you're certain you'll be treated just like you treated 
everyone else...

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs


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