Speaking of snotty liberals ...

On Oct 18, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> 
> On Oct 17, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Francis Drouillard wrote:
> 
>> One adverse effect of "multi-culturalism":
>> 
>> <http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/876260--quebec-will-win-battle-for-independence-duceppe-tells-washington>
>> 
>> That in a country more suited to it than, say, countries such as Italy or 
>> Germany, or even France.
> 
> Are you SERIOUSLY that ignorant of the history of Quebec (or the history of 
> your own country, for that matter; you might want to look up 'The French and 
> Indian War') ? 
> 
> This isn't a bunch of people who immigrated, then refused to assimilate, this 
> was French colony that was militarily conquered by the English, whereupon the 
>  descendants of the original French settlers were routinely and deeply 
> discriminated against until the 50's and 60's. (at least the ones who weren't 
> simply expelled from the country so the English settlers could take their 
> property...<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cajun#History_of_Acadian_ancestors> 
> ) 
> 
>> 
>> In my not-so-humble-view, a very good model of multiculturalism is Detroit 
>> in the 40's and 50's. Different ethnicities thrived in different "quarters" 
>> of the city. The only dominant culture was good old Judeo-Christian 
>> Americanism.
> 
> The heterosexual white male protestant was boss, and everybody damn well knew 
> it, and had better toe the line!
> 
>> The old-country cultures flourished as well, but in their own quarters. No 
>> one was dumb enough to insist that the Greeks of Greektown endure 
>> encroachment of Italian culture in their neighborhood, or that the French be 
>> allowed to offend the Poles and dominate the culture in Hamtramck.
>> 
> 
> "I got nothing against those [niggers, spics, wops, polacks, kikes, etc.] 
> just so long as they stay in their place."
> 
>> Everyone got along pretty damn good back then,
> 
> So long as you ignore Jim Crow, lynchings, McCarthyism, and rampant and open 
> discrimination against all but the WASP elite. Schools were segregated, women 
> had few work opportunities outside of the home. The Army was officially 
> segregated until 1948, and was only desegregated by executive order by a 
> 'snotty liberal' president, and only truly integrated until 1951, when the 
> Army conveniently needed black men to go die for their country. And many of 
> them came back from an integrated Army to face serious discrimination back 
> home; this was one impetus for the rapid rise of the Civil Rioghts movement 
> in the 50's; pissed-off black veterans. 
> 
> There were deep societal disaffections rumbling beneath the surface that 
> erupted full-bore in the 60's, and the only reason there wasn't enormous and 
> widespread unrest in the 50's was a deeply repressive authoritarian culture, 
> and that America was widely prosperous: union membership (and the attendant 
> higher wages and good benefits) was at an all-time high, the GI bill had 
> enabled millions of men to get college degrees, along with the concomitant 
> increase in socioeconomic status, and the suburbs were booming, thanks to 
> government-guaranteed mortgages and government-subsidized road construction. 
> Making enough money to live well counteracts a lot of discrimination.
> 
> Suburbs that often had deeply engrained redlining and sunset laws in place to 
> prevent minorities from moving in. The WASP's moved to the 'Burbs and 
> everyone else got stuck in their ghettos.
> 
>> and we had the best of all cultures.
> 
> If you were a white, heterosexual protestant male, why yes it was. (except 
> for the  As Archie Bunker sang: "Those were the days!" 
> 
>> No government or snotty liberals forcing us to live together.
> 
> No, you could rely on the white, heterosexual male power structure to make 
> sure no [niggers, spics, wops, polacks, kikes, etc.] got a chance to move 
> into YOUR neighborhood, and if all else failed there was always the anonymous 
> brick with death threats though the front window, police harassment, or 
> burning cross on the front lawn.
> 
> Man, I knew there was a deep strain of white supremacy in the modern 
> conservative ranks, but I didn't realize just how close it was to the 
> surface. 
> 
> You and the rest of the white male heterosexual protestant conservatives are 
> whimperingly, cringingly, shitting your pants TERRIFIED at becoming a 
> minority in this country, because you're certain you'll be treated just like 
> you treated everyone else...
> 
> -- 
> Bruce Johnson
> University of Arizona
> College of Pharmacy
> Information Technology Group
> 
> Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs
> 
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