its something like 15% of adults

and 22% of children

it isn't me only asserting it it is the USA Census

2mCastros

did you even look at the links?

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Francis Drouillard <[email protected]> wrote:

> Another Castro blast from Bruce.
>
> Are you really going to insist  that 1:5 Americans are in poverty? Really?
>
>
> On Oct 5, 2011, at 9:28 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>
> >
> > On Oct 5, 2011, at 9:05 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >> mex my want to re-evaluate the assertion that 1 in 5 Americans live
> below the poverty level:
> >>
> >> <
> http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2011/10/hunger-hoax-perpetuates-dependency?utm_source=10/5%20Washington%20Examiner%20Opinion%20-%2010/05/2011&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Washington%20Examiner:%20Opinion%20Digest
> >
> >
> > "Burgers, pizzas and the like cost more than food that you can buy at a
> store and cook yourself. If you can afford junk food, you can certainly
> afford healthier food."
> >
> > Wrong on most levels. When burgers cost $1, they are cheaper than the
> equivalent food
> >
> > For someone like Sowell, yes, it's certainly true that healthy fresh food
> costs more than junk food, but he clearly doesn't live in the 'food deserts'
> that characterize a great deal of the landscape of poor America:
> >
> > <http://www.cdc.gov/features/fooddeserts/>
> >
> > (by your constant denigrations of the poor, I can pretty well assume you
> have little direct experience. I've had to shop in the kinds of slum grocery
> stores they're describing and yes, there's a significant difference in
> costs. Just a tiny, petty example: in one (NY Food Lion store circa 1990,
> istr it was in Tarrytown) I went looking for some canned tomato sauce. IN
> the stores you or I shop in we have a choice, often three or more brands,
> and small, medium and large cans, with significant quantity savings for the
> large cans.
> >
> > In the slum store there were two sizes of cans: the 8 oz size you or I
> would call 'small' and a ridiculously tiny 4 oz size. The prices were the
> same as for a medium and small cans in the much nicer suburban store 15
> miles up the road.
> >
> > The vegetables looked like they were the ones swept up off the floor in
> the produce warehouse and were exorbitantly priced.
> >
> > I've seen this pattern reproduced again and again. Even Wal-Mart does it
> this way.
> >
> > Also, he completely discounts the time it takes to do that cooking; these
> are not his fantasy 'Father Knows Best' 1950's households; there is usually
> no one with the time to do this cooking, let alone possessing the skills and
> in many cases, even the most minimal of equipment.
> >
> > And finally he's just as patronizing as any of the rest as he scolds
> these people for not cooking more of their own food.
> >
> > Finally, Francis (Wouldn't want expend TOO many milliCastros of my free
> speech allowance on the subject!), don't link to opinion pieces by partisan
> hacks with no links to actual data to support his theories and pass them off
> as 'fact'. Doesn't work that way.
> >
> > (And I won't EVEN getinto the hackery of "the poors, they have the TeeVee
> sets and the Air conditioners so they're not poor!" Do your REALLY need to
> be taught the trajectory of technology costs over the last fifty years!
> >
> > (post length 35.4 mCastros)
> >
> > --
> > Bruce Johnson
> > University of Arizona
> > College of Pharmacy
> > Information Technology Group
> >
> > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs
> >
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