On Mar 1, 2012, at 8:35 AM, richardsan wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 7:26 AM, TENEBRAE <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2012, at 12:05 AM, richardsan wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Brian Lawson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That would be an unconstitutional abridgment of the 1st amendment.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> "unconstitutional" that's what all those smokers, who smoked wherever
>> they
>>> wanted to said, after laws were made to deny them their right to smoke.
>> 
>> You're wrong on this, Richardsan.
>> 
>> Smoking isn't speech, and second-hand smoke is a killer.
>> 
> 
> i used it an example of where peoples' manifest thought perpetuated a
> "right" to do as they please and did it, until  legislation stepped
> in...slavery, women's rights, could be other examples.

And those examples would not help your argument.  

>> Denying the holocaust is speech, and denying the holocaust only hurts
>> feelings, not people.
>>    -W
>> 

>> ...there are what, 18 countries in europe that have made this issue
>> important enough to make new laws banning it. they're wrong, as well?

I didn't serve those countries to support and defend their constitutions, nor 
do I know whether or not they have equivalents of our 1st Amendment.

If they have constitutional protections for speech and subsequently pass a law 
forbidding a certain type of speech, yes, they are wrong, too.
     -W




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