On Feb 3, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> 
> On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Mugsy Lunsford <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Here's one view from Directory Utility, for the Administrators Group. 
>> Yes, there are multiple admin accounts; all systems in this store are 
>> configured with all accounts needed in the store, so that any mac can be 
>> used in any capacity. It's a redundancy that allows me to bring one home to 
>> fix it without crippling the store. 
>> 
>> http://imgur.com/3KYgoyg
>> 
>> Any suggestions? I've been trying various terminal commands, have done 
>> everything I could find to try short of Archive and Install, which is next 
>> on my list if I can't think of anything else. I've downloaded BatCHMOD and 
>> Permissions Repair, both cannot run on that system. 
> 
> Ugh. The 'Crashes when connected to the network' issue is likely unrelated to 
> permissions, and the rest sounds like it expects to be connected to the 
> network to work.

The database is on the server, which it can't reach from here, so I've been 
unable to replicate the crashing. The error messages revealed when inside their 
building before it crashes are all about locations of pertinent files, which 
are all where they are supposed to be. I think all the confusion between users 
and groups, and memberships thereof, in addition to the lack of an owner on the 
volume, is the reason for the crashing. Additionally, an attempt by the POSiM 
support staff to remotely access the computer resulted in crashing. I've never 
seen anything this weird with permissions before, so was hoping to fix the root 
cause, while sorting it out. Running out of time, so I tried an A & I last 
night, and although it's running fine today, the permissions are still 
fetching. 

> My first guess on the apps issue is to see what the user/group permissions 
> are (including ACL's, if there's a '+' on the long directory listing in 
> Terminal). ACL's can definitely Mess You Up if misapplied. You can do stuff 
> like this <http://krypted.com/mac-security/recursively-remove-acls/> to clear 
> them all out before trying to get them straightened. Krypted is  a great site 
> for this kind of stuff.
> 
> If you only see a uuid not a name in terminal when the machine is 
> disconnected, this means that the user who 'owns' this stuff is not present 
> in the local directory, and any permissions changes must be done the hard way 
> (chown & chmod as root) by comparing it to a working system.

changes made via chown and chmod by root are ignored on this system. 

> If "everything" means EVERYTHING, not just the POS software, nuke&pave it if 
> Disk Utility Repair Permissionsdoesn't fix it. (This is the one time where 
> Repair Permissions might actually be something more than a placebo)
> 
> Me I'd probably say 'screw it' and nuke&pave followed by restoring data.

Going to take it back in and format/clone from existing system. Really hoping 
that these permissions issues aren't on some sort of multi-clone creep all over 
the building. 


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