On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Arron Bates wrote:

> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:38:46 +1000
> From: Arron Bates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Nested taglib with EL?
>
> JSTL can let you get through to nested beans, but it hasn't the foggiest
> idea as to how to go about making a nested property structure for the
> input tag so the Struts servlet can process it the way we all love the
> Struts servlet doing its nested bean thang.
>
> Nested tags for now manage this better. But, if people start thinking
> (the way they do) that "this technology is the future and everything
> else is bad"... then the Nested tags will be some kind of a casualty on
> the side of the road of group adoption.
>

Or a motivation for enhancements to the EL in some future version of JSP
(the EL in JSTL 1.0 is being formally adopted into JSP 2.0, so you can use
it everywhere in a JSP page, and any future enhancements will happen in
versions of JSP > 2.0).

> As for the EL, the property property should probably be left alone, but
> EL working on value evaluations and such would be groovy. Looking at how
> Dave's done the struts-el so far, it's just like what I produced for the
> nested tags (using the extension), so it could happen. The evaluation of
> the property property would have to happen before the nested tag works
> out what it's doing in relation to the parent tags. EL on the property
> property would be dicey as it would have to evaluate exactly to the
> nested reference. I don't feel like being tech support for that one. :)
>
> The nested tags will be a solution to a set of problems where at least
> for the moment there is no other answer. Played with recursion/trees
> yet?... :P
>

Personally, I'd suggest not trying to support "partial references" in the
struts-el library similar to what the nested taglib can do.  We would have
to define the semantics of this ourselves, which is unlikely to be
compatible with whatever does finally happen on the standardization front.

>
> Arron.
>

Craig


>
> Brandon Goodin wrote:
>
> >so you are saying that the nested taglib will be replaced with jstl? I am
> >using jstl and i don't see how this functionality will be accomplished. But,
> >i am new to jstl. Any examples? Cuz i would be happy to adjust to the
> >standard. I love the paradigm of using the formbean as a bean "transport"
> >and nesting my biz model beans in it and passing them to the logic layer
> >with no tweaking (page/form --> populate formbean --> action: extract beans
> >from form pass to logic--> logic operates on bean info --> passes info back
> >to action (if needed) --> passes to next view). So far the nested taglib
> >provides the means for this and i don't want to break it cuz it's euphoric.
> >:-))
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Brandon Goodin
> >Phase Web and Multimedia
> >P(406)862-2245
> >F(406)862-0354
> >http://www.phase.ws
> >
>
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