Re: OT: Struts JSR?

[Vic Cekvenich]

Lets take the leads of Sun, JCP and Jakarta  at their word, for a 
second.... and then add my .02: If JSF is positioned as better than 
Struts (or Spring or WebWork etc.) then I personally would rather use 
other platforms entirely.... and I am on my way moving in that direction 
for a few months now, porting bP, etc.

.V

Nadeem Bitar wrote:
Since there is an overlap between struts and jsf, I highly doubt that
Struts would be accepted as a JSR. 

I already expressed similar concerns regarding struts being replaced by
JSF. I believe the open source community works faster than JCP and if
struts want to be remain competitive and still be considered the defacto
java web application framework, the struts developers need to address
the concerns raised with the current struts architecture and deliver the
next generation application framework that would silence struts
critiques and improve productivity of struts developers.
Struts 2.0 roadmap already have very good points but the timeframe of
the availability would be critical for the future of struts.
If for example JSF 2.0 is available, and Spring Framework is well
integrated with JSF before Struts 2.0 is available, I strongly believe
that struts won't have a place and would lose market shares. 

Spring 1.1 would offer amazing enhancement (JMX managed beans. JMS
support, Command framework, Swing support for rich clients..) and an
excellent architecture to build complex applications, combining that
with JSF component model would offer a very strong framework that's hard
to match. 

On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 21:14 -0500, Thomas L Roche wrote:


David Geary spoke on JSF at trijug.org M 15 Mar 04. My notes of 
his remarks include

- Is JSF a replacement for Struts? Yes!

- JSF is a standard. Struts will never be a standard.

which I believe to be pretty-nearly-direct quotes. I'm assuming he
really meant
+ JSF 1.0 can do pretty much everything Struts 1.1 can.

+ JSF is a JSR, and Struts will never be a JSR.

but I'm wondering about that last statement. What prevents Struts
from undergoing the JCP? Are there circumstances under which you
might consider this?
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