On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 02:49:44 +0000, Peter A. Pilgrim wrote:
Would the same principle work with people who have taken Struts and integrated or embedded
as another framework? Having spent some type integrating 1.1 into Expresso Framework in
2002, in our case can we be classified as Struts extenders? Also some repository will not want to become a sub project of Struts because of logical sense, politics or legal entity
status?
Something like Expresso is large enough to be a framework in its own right. If the Expresso Community ever wanted to apply to Apache for incubation as an ASF project, I'd certainly support the idea.
Or, if there were a coherent subset of Expresso that could be used by Struts developers as an extension, independently of Expresso, that might be something that could live as a Struts opt-* modules. Personally, I'd love to see a proposal from Expresso of some helpful code that they would like to grant to the ASF -- especially if it gave us an excuse to nominate you as a committer, Peter. :)
Not a decision I could make on my own, dear boy. You would have to discuss it with Expresso repository copyright holders. Just like the advert that ask "please get permission from the (telephone) bill payer" before calling the premium rate competition number. My view might be paraphrased as "who ever legally owns the CVS repository and pays real money annually to host it to world wide web" has the right to do what they please with the source code base.
As for the framework itself, last year, we were looking at some componentisation and micro kernel-like idea but some teething problems prevent us in the present release from dismantling the framework and reassembling it. I suppose any component that might be presented piece-meal to ASF would be derived from this work. Hey, who knows? It's always purple hazey out there in the future.
On the other hand. I can certainly see if I can help you personally on Struts 2.0 work in the meantime.
Of course, it is very true that not every open source project is suited for Apache. There is a specific Apache culture and management style that doesn't work for everyone. We would never simply annex a codebase and then redistribute it under the ASL. We consider the community behind a codebase to be more important than the code itself. It's the extension's community that we would pursue, more than the code itself.
Regards
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