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Apparently they're starting to give the larger boys a stir!

More importantly, I need to comment on the beer issue. The foster's you 
have up there is a US company with an AUS label. The only real beer, is 
the beer down here!


Arron.

Mark Galbreath wrote:

>My point was more towards the issue of Tomcat not being an EJB container and
>the apparent scope of the company would make EJBs mandatory for handling
>data access.
>
>But I know what you mean about a company getting cheap on you.  I am forced
>to used JRun (chosen solely based on the price), arguablly the worst app
>server on the planet.
>
>And stop sending that Foster's crap up here - we want real beer!
>
>Cheers!
>Mark
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Washusen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:50 PM
>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>Subject: RE: Things that use Struts
>
>
>Like I said, it's only a proof of concept.  The company in question is used
>to paying a LOT of money for it's application servers, apparently they
>almost jumped at the chance at cutting that cost to near nothing... I'm only
>a lowly dev on the project and don't really know any of the politics
>associated.  At the moment the only technical issues I am aware of with
>tomcat is it's comparably ineffective method of session management and fail
>over (being restricted to one apache instance for the tomcat sticky
>sessions).
>
>Anyway, I just thought you might like to know about it.  We are definitely
>using Struts, Tomcat may change due to the above issue.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, 18 January 2002 12:23 PM
>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>Subject: Re: Things that use Struts
>
>
>"One of Australias' biggest sites?"  How are you going to that with Tomcat?
>
>Cheers!
>Mark
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dan Washusen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:02 PM
>Subject: RE: Things that use Struts
>
>
>>Hey everyone,
>>I'm currently working on a proof of concept for a re-write of one of
>>Australia's biggest sites (just under a million searches a month).  The
>>proof of concept runs the front end (presentation layer) on Linux with
>>Tomcat 4 and Struts.  I'll keep you posted on how it goes (so far so
>>
>good).
>
>>There is even some talk of Lucene being used.
>>
>>Needless to say, we are very impressed with both Tomcat and Struts.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Dan
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Stuart Charlton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Friday, 18 January 2002 10:01 AM
>>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>>Subject: Things that use Struts
>>
>>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>I've been a Struts developer and lurker since 1.0 was first released and
>>have been pushing it in a big way within my company... Just wanted to
>>
>throw
>
>>in my two cents about where we're using Struts for people who are
>>
>wondering
>
>>whether Struts is right for their project, or if it can tackle a large
>>
>scale
>
>>system.
>>
>>a) We have a subcontract that's replacing a system for a division of the
>>U.S. Navy.  This system is replacing 1.5 million lines of COBOL code with
>>
>a
>
>>J2EE solution using Struts, WebLogic and TOPLink.  After 3 months of
>>development is nearly 60,000 lines of code and will be around 150,000 by
>>
>the
>
>>time we're done.  Most of the screens are pretty static, but this is
>>definitely a huge system, and Struts' design paradigm has scaled
>>
>gracefully
>
>>(with a lot of help from TOPLink).
>>
>>b) One of our financial clients is using a web-based inventory system for
>>trading whole loans & mortgages.  This will be refactored to incorporate
>>Struts over the next several months (currently it's a bit icky, somewhere
>>between JSP model 0 or 1 in terms of modularity).
>>
>>c) Our new venture with Random House, http://www.codenotes.com/ was
>>
>written
>
>>completely with Struts on JRun.
>>
>>Struts is a great framework, the code is clean enough to eat off of, and
>>
>it
>
>>really makes J2EE sing.  With a lot of the new whiz-bang ASP.NET features
>>coming down the pipe, I think Struts really is what's keeping JSP/Servlet
>>development competitive....
>>
>>Cheers
>>Stu Charlton
>>Senior Architect / Trainer, Infusion Development
>>Disclaimer:  Everything in this message is the opinion of your humble
>>correspondent and is not necessarily the opinion of Infusion Development
>>corp.
>>
>>
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