is this abuse of this list - had it better stop?
Belgian beer - Rochefort 10, English beer - Youngs Winter Warmer yumm - sorry I got 
caught up in
it now.
--- "Robert J. Sanford, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hmmmmmm, beeeeeer.
> 
> bass, guiness, newcastle brown ale, harp...
> 
> yummy!
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:09 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: Things that use Struts
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry...I think you'll find the real beer is only to be found in
> > the United
> > Kingdom!
> >
> > D.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Arron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 01/18/2002
> > 07:35:53 AM
> >
> > Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List"
> >       <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > To:   Struts Users Mailing List
> >       <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > cc:    (bcc: David Hay/Lex/Lexmark)
> > Subject:  Re: Things that use Struts
> >
> >
> >
> > Go to www.JBoss.org
> > Apparently they're starting to give the larger boys a stir!
> >
> > More importantly, I need to comment on the beer issue. The foster's you
> > have up there is a US company with an AUS label. The only real beer, is
> > the beer down here!
> >
> >
> > Arron.
> >
> > Mark Galbreath wrote:
> >
> > >My point was more towards the issue of Tomcat not being an EJB
> > container and
> > >the apparent scope of the company would make EJBs mandatory for handling
> > >data access.
> > >
> > >But I know what you mean about a company getting cheap on you.
> > I am forced
> > >to used JRun (chosen solely based on the price), arguablly the worst app
> > >server on the planet.
> > >
> > >And stop sending that Foster's crap up here - we want real beer!
> > >
> > >Cheers!
> > >Mark
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Dan Washusen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:50 PM
> > >To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > >Subject: RE: Things that use Struts
> > >
> > >
> > >Like I said, it's only a proof of concept.  The company in
> > question is used
> > >to paying a LOT of money for it's application servers, apparently they
> > >almost jumped at the chance at cutting that cost to near
> > nothing... I'm only
> > >a lowly dev on the project and don't really know any of the politics
> > >associated.  At the moment the only technical issues I am aware of with
> > >tomcat is it's comparably ineffective method of session
> > management and fail
> > >over (being restricted to one apache instance for the tomcat sticky
> > >sessions).
> > >
> > >Anyway, I just thought you might like to know about it.  We are
> > definitely
> > >using Struts, Tomcat may change due to the above issue.
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Friday, 18 January 2002 12:23 PM
> > >To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > >Subject: Re: Things that use Struts
> > >
> > >
> > >"One of Australias' biggest sites?"  How are you going to that
> > with Tomcat?
> > >
> > >Cheers!
> > >Mark
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Dan Washusen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:02 PM
> > >Subject: RE: Things that use Struts
> > >
> > >
> > >>Hey everyone,
> > >>I'm currently working on a proof of concept for a re-write of one of
> > >>Australia's biggest sites (just under a million searches a month).  The
> > >>proof of concept runs the front end (presentation layer) on Linux with
> > >>Tomcat 4 and Struts.  I'll keep you posted on how it goes (so far so
> > >>
> > >good).
> > >
> > >>There is even some talk of Lucene being used.
> > >>
> > >>Needless to say, we are very impressed with both Tomcat and Struts.
> > >>
> > >>Cheers,
> > >>Dan
> > >>
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: Stuart Charlton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >>Sent: Friday, 18 January 2002 10:01 AM
> > >>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > >>Subject: Things that use Struts
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Hi everyone,
> > >>
> > >>I've been a Struts developer and lurker since 1.0 was first released and
> > >>have been pushing it in a big way within my company... Just wanted to
> > >>
> > >throw
> > >
> > >>in my two cents about where we're using Struts for people who are
> > >>
> > >wondering
> > >
> > >>whether Struts is right for their project, or if it can tackle a large
> > >>
> > >scale
> > >
> > >>system.
> > >>
> > >>a) We have a subcontract that's replacing a system for a division of the
> > >>U.S. Navy.  This system is replacing 1.5 million lines of COBOL
> > code with
> > >>
> > >a
> > >
> > >>J2EE solution using Struts, WebLogic and TOPLink.  After 3 months of
> > >>development is nearly 60,000 lines of code and will be around 150,000 by
> > >>
> > >the
> > >
> > >>time we're done.  Most of the screens are pretty static, but this is
> > >>definitely a huge system, and Struts' design paradigm has scaled
> > >>
> > >gracefully
> > >
> > >>(with a lot of help from TOPLink).
> > >>
> > >>b) One of our financial clients is using a web-based inventory
> > system for
> > >>trading whole loans & mortgages.  This will be refactored to incorporate
> > >>Struts over the next several months (currently it's a bit icky,
> > somewhere
> > >>between JSP model 0 or 1 in terms of modularity).
> > >>
> > >>c) Our new venture with Random House, http://www.codenotes.com/ was
> > >>
> > >written
> > >
> > >>completely with Struts on JRun.
> > >>
> > >>Struts is a great framework, the code is clean enough to eat off of, and
> > >>
> > >it
> > >
> > >>really makes J2EE sing.  With a lot of the new whiz-bang
> > ASP.NET features
> > >>coming down the pipe, I think Struts really is what's keeping
> > JSP/Servlet
> > >>development competitive....
> > >>
> > >>Cheers
> > >>Stu Charlton
> > >>Senior Architect / Trainer, Infusion Development
> > >>Disclaimer:  Everything in this message is the opinion of your humble
> > >>correspondent and is not necessarily the opinion of Infusion Development
> > >>corp.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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