is it me or do all web developers drink beer ?

has anyone made a beer-related web site using Struts ? (which would bring us
back to the subject of this thread...)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Bacon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: Things that use Struts


> is this abuse of this list - had it better stop?
> Belgian beer - Rochefort 10, English beer - Youngs Winter Warmer yumm -
sorry I got caught up in
> it now.
> --- "Robert J. Sanford, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > hmmmmmm, beeeeeer.
> >
> > bass, guiness, newcastle brown ale, harp...
> >
> > yummy!
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:09 PM
> > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: Things that use Struts
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry...I think you'll find the real beer is only to be found in
> > > the United
> > > Kingdom!
> > >
> > > D.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Arron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 01/18/2002
> > > 07:35:53 AM
> > >
> > > Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List"
> > >       <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > To:   Struts Users Mailing List
> > >       <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > cc:    (bcc: David Hay/Lex/Lexmark)
> > > Subject:  Re: Things that use Struts
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Go to www.JBoss.org
> > > Apparently they're starting to give the larger boys a stir!
> > >
> > > More importantly, I need to comment on the beer issue. The foster's
you
> > > have up there is a US company with an AUS label. The only real beer,
is
> > > the beer down here!
> > >
> > >
> > > Arron.
> > >
> > > Mark Galbreath wrote:
> > >
> > > >My point was more towards the issue of Tomcat not being an EJB
> > > container and
> > > >the apparent scope of the company would make EJBs mandatory for
handling
> > > >data access.
> > > >
> > > >But I know what you mean about a company getting cheap on you.
> > > I am forced
> > > >to used JRun (chosen solely based on the price), arguablly the worst
app
> > > >server on the planet.
> > > >
> > > >And stop sending that Foster's crap up here - we want real beer!
> > > >
> > > >Cheers!
> > > >Mark
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Dan Washusen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:50 PM
> > > >To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > >Subject: RE: Things that use Struts
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Like I said, it's only a proof of concept.  The company in
> > > question is used
> > > >to paying a LOT of money for it's application servers, apparently
they
> > > >almost jumped at the chance at cutting that cost to near
> > > nothing... I'm only
> > > >a lowly dev on the project and don't really know any of the politics
> > > >associated.  At the moment the only technical issues I am aware of
with
> > > >tomcat is it's comparably ineffective method of session
> > > management and fail
> > > >over (being restricted to one apache instance for the tomcat sticky
> > > >sessions).
> > > >
> > > >Anyway, I just thought you might like to know about it.  We are
> > > definitely
> > > >using Struts, Tomcat may change due to the above issue.
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >Sent: Friday, 18 January 2002 12:23 PM
> > > >To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > >Subject: Re: Things that use Struts
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"One of Australias' biggest sites?"  How are you going to that
> > > with Tomcat?
> > > >
> > > >Cheers!
> > > >Mark
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Dan Washusen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:02 PM
> > > >Subject: RE: Things that use Struts
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Hey everyone,
> > > >>I'm currently working on a proof of concept for a re-write of one of
> > > >>Australia's biggest sites (just under a million searches a month).
The
> > > >>proof of concept runs the front end (presentation layer) on Linux
with
> > > >>Tomcat 4 and Struts.  I'll keep you posted on how it goes (so far so
> > > >>
> > > >good).
> > > >
> > > >>There is even some talk of Lucene being used.
> > > >>
> > > >>Needless to say, we are very impressed with both Tomcat and Struts.
> > > >>
> > > >>Cheers,
> > > >>Dan
> > > >>
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: Stuart Charlton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >>Sent: Friday, 18 January 2002 10:01 AM
> > > >>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > >>Subject: Things that use Struts
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Hi everyone,
> > > >>
> > > >>I've been a Struts developer and lurker since 1.0 was first released
and
> > > >>have been pushing it in a big way within my company... Just wanted
to
> > > >>
> > > >throw
> > > >
> > > >>in my two cents about where we're using Struts for people who are
> > > >>
> > > >wondering
> > > >
> > > >>whether Struts is right for their project, or if it can tackle a
large
> > > >>
> > > >scale
> > > >
> > > >>system.
> > > >>
> > > >>a) We have a subcontract that's replacing a system for a division of
the
> > > >>U.S. Navy.  This system is replacing 1.5 million lines of COBOL
> > > code with
> > > >>
> > > >a
> > > >
> > > >>J2EE solution using Struts, WebLogic and TOPLink.  After 3 months of
> > > >>development is nearly 60,000 lines of code and will be around
150,000 by
> > > >>
> > > >the
> > > >
> > > >>time we're done.  Most of the screens are pretty static, but this is
> > > >>definitely a huge system, and Struts' design paradigm has scaled
> > > >>
> > > >gracefully
> > > >
> > > >>(with a lot of help from TOPLink).
> > > >>
> > > >>b) One of our financial clients is using a web-based inventory
> > > system for
> > > >>trading whole loans & mortgages.  This will be refactored to
incorporate
> > > >>Struts over the next several months (currently it's a bit icky,
> > > somewhere
> > > >>between JSP model 0 or 1 in terms of modularity).
> > > >>
> > > >>c) Our new venture with Random House, http://www.codenotes.com/ was
> > > >>
> > > >written
> > > >
> > > >>completely with Struts on JRun.
> > > >>
> > > >>Struts is a great framework, the code is clean enough to eat off of,
and
> > > >>
> > > >it
> > > >
> > > >>really makes J2EE sing.  With a lot of the new whiz-bang
> > > ASP.NET features
> > > >>coming down the pipe, I think Struts really is what's keeping
> > > JSP/Servlet
> > > >>development competitive....
> > > >>
> > > >>Cheers
> > > >>Stu Charlton
> > > >>Senior Architect / Trainer, Infusion Development
> > > >>Disclaimer:  Everything in this message is the opinion of your
humble
> > > >>correspondent and is not necessarily the opinion of Infusion
Development
> > > >>corp.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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