It sounds like they are using XP just to go cheap on outfitting the labs.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jacob Hookom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 2:30 PM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: XP (and not the Microsoft kind)


Our CS program on campus is going all XP development.  Granted they make
us learn how to do all of the Design/Requirement/Analysis FUD, but our
new labs are all setup for group programming around 2 or 3 monitors at
once in a corner desk.  If anything, it makes you write more flexible
code, with less emphasis on "here, you do this part about JDBC, and we
will meet again in 3 days".  No one learns then, and I think the same
could be applied to the work environment.

-Jacob

| -----Original Message-----
| From: Cliff Rowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 1:01 PM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: XP (and not the Microsoft kind)
| 
| A bit of off-topic, but it's Friday, so there :)
| 
| Today I read an new article on IBM developerWorks on eXtreme
| Programming, in which the author pretty much sorts the wheat from the
| chaff in explaining XP, and I am very interested.  I'd avoided XP in
the
| past because all the FUD that surrounds it made it difficult for me to
| determine exactly what it was and what it involved without spending a
| significant amount of time researching it (time is money!).
| 
| Now I am curious as to who is using XP and how true it is to it's
| promise of increased collaboration, increased productivity and more
| importantly increased project success rate.
| 
| Being unedjumucated, I have found it difficult in the past dealing
with
| projects in the various ways I have experienced.  I've not had a great
| time all in all, with too many horror stories for someone with only 4
| years professional experience.  I've found myself asking 'why?' quite
a
| lot, and I've always wondered if there was a better way.  This also
has
| a lot to do with why I operate as a one man band, and generally try to
| avoid 'complicated' development.
| 
| If anyone has any views on XP or any real world world experience with
| it, I'd love to hear about it.  It appears that XP is being more
widely
| adopted these days, with JUnit and various other tools available that
| support the XP processes.
| 
| The article is here, for anyone interested:
| http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/j-xp0813/?n-j-8152
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| 
| Regards
| 
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