Actually, in all the market slump and government funding cutbacks, our CS department is growing-- dramatically, in addition, it's accredited for CS, so it's not second rate ;-)
Jacob Hookom University of Wisconsin, Eau Claire | -----Original Message----- | From: Smiley, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 1:33 PM | To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' | Subject: RE: XP (and not the Microsoft kind) | | It sounds like they are using XP just to go cheap on outfitting the labs. | | -----Original Message----- | From: Jacob Hookom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 2:30 PM | To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' | Subject: RE: XP (and not the Microsoft kind) | | | Our CS program on campus is going all XP development. Granted they make | us learn how to do all of the Design/Requirement/Analysis FUD, but our | new labs are all setup for group programming around 2 or 3 monitors at | once in a corner desk. If anything, it makes you write more flexible | code, with less emphasis on "here, you do this part about JDBC, and we | will meet again in 3 days". No one learns then, and I think the same | could be applied to the work environment. | | -Jacob | | | -----Original Message----- | | From: Cliff Rowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | | Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 1:01 PM | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Subject: XP (and not the Microsoft kind) | | | | A bit of off-topic, but it's Friday, so there :) | | | | Today I read an new article on IBM developerWorks on eXtreme | | Programming, in which the author pretty much sorts the wheat from the | | chaff in explaining XP, and I am very interested. I'd avoided XP in | the | | past because all the FUD that surrounds it made it difficult for me to | | determine exactly what it was and what it involved without spending a | | significant amount of time researching it (time is money!). | | | | Now I am curious as to who is using XP and how true it is to it's | | promise of increased collaboration, increased productivity and more | | importantly increased project success rate. | | | | Being unedjumucated, I have found it difficult in the past dealing | with | | projects in the various ways I have experienced. I've not had a great | | time all in all, with too many horror stories for someone with only 4 | | years professional experience. I've found myself asking 'why?' quite | a | | lot, and I've always wondered if there was a better way. This also | has | | a lot to do with why I operate as a one man band, and generally try to | | avoid 'complicated' development. | | | | If anyone has any views on XP or any real world world experience with | | it, I'd love to hear about it. It appears that XP is being more | widely | | adopted these days, with JUnit and various other tools available that | | support the XP processes. | | | | The article is here, for anyone interested: | | http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/j-xp0813/?n-j-8152 | | -- | | | | Regards | | | | ------------------------------------------- | | Cliff Rowley | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Software Engineer | www.doctype.co.uk | | +44 (0) 1206 514263 | www.cliffrowley.com | | ------------------------------------------- | | | | | | -- | | To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:struts-user- | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:struts-user- | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | | | --- | | Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. | | Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). | | Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002 | | | | --- | Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. | Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). | Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002 | | | | -- | To unsubscribe, e-mail: | <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | For additional commands, e-mail: | <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | -- | To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:struts-user- | [EMAIL PROTECTED]> | For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:struts-user- | [EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | --- | Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. | Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). | Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002 | --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

