Jonas Bj�rnerstedt wrote:

>Being rather new to the list, I was not familiar with the [OT] convention.
>Searching the archives for an explanation of the conventions is a bit
>difficult, I get thousands of hits whatever I try. Could someone repost, or
>point me in the right direction? Maybe all postings to this list should have
>some kind of indication of topic?
>
>My original suggestion was to reduce traffic basically by splitting the
>list. The idea should not be all that controversial, after all there are a
>lot of Jakarta lists. I subscribe to several. The question is rather if
>there is a natural way of splitting the list.
>
This has been suggested - it was shot down; won't happen.

>Given that Struts is still beta, I think a struts-beginner list would make
>life easier for beginners. I don't think newcomers pose questions out of
>laziness. It is easy to get *totally* stuck when starting, especially when
>the program is beta. I don't know how many postings I have seen that start
>with something like "forgive me for my stupid question...". Let beginners -
>like me - speak freely.
>
>Struts tags should be separated into a separate list. Many users like me
>have no interest in the Struts tags. I am following the advice of Craig and
>"seriously consider(ing) waiting for the ability to use JSF components
>instead of the Struts HTML tag library."  Given that the Struts tags are
>rather separate, and that there are several alternatives, I think a
>struts-tags list is in order. Alternatively, it would be a good idea for
>people to put [Tag] in the subject.
>
>I wanted to suggest a "cheap" way to get better Struts documentation. I
>realize that having a forum would be nice, and that people could sit down
>and submit FAQs. The problem is that it is not going to happen, because it
>takes a bit too much effort. The point of having a struts-answers list is
>that it requires little effort.
>
It does happen.  Subscribe to struts-dev - you will see.  Yes, there 
could be more of it, but it does, in fact, happen.

>I wonder how many of those who suggest searching the struts-users archive
>actually do this themselves. It might be that I am a klutz at searching, but
>the sheer volume of hits makes it cumbersome to use.
>
The archive can be a bit of a PITA.  I do try there - I also try Google. 
 Google will actually return things out of the archive, and is a good 
spot to look.

>A struts-answer archive would be a distilled version of the users list. If I
>read a mail to the struts-user list that I find instructive, I simply
>forward it to the struts-answer list.
>
... well, as good of an idea as it may be, I honestly doubt it will 
happen.  Having said that, there would be nothing to stop some certain 
individual from setting up such a list and making people aware of it's 
existence.

>A nice thing about the struts-user list is that a question usually prompts
>several answers. When a user has received such a response, I think he would
>be more than glad to combine these to an answer in the struts-answer list.
>It is a way of paying back.
>
Ha!  I disagree.  There are those who would - yes.  However, I think a 
lot of people just want a solution and really don't care about "paying 
back".  Maybe I would be shocked though ...

>Btw, the link:
>
>http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/resources/FAQ/index.htm
>
>at
>
>http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/resources/archives.html
>
>seems broken.
>
>Jonas
>
:-( I was noticing that too.  The first one still is - the second works.

-- 
Eddie Bush




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