On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Malcolm Davis wrote:

> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:41:53 -0500
> From: Malcolm Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: all this traffic
>
> Since March of 2001, there has been almost 27K emails sent
> to the list.
> Why the continuous pouring of emails?  Maybe another
> technique has to be developed for people to research
> problems.
>

I'm open to suggestion, but I can tell you from experience that splitting
the list is not the right answer -- for people *asking* the questions or
for the questions *answering* them.  I've seen this tried several times in
various high volume scenarios, and it always tends to degenerate to some
combination of:

* Newbie questions still get asked on the non-newbie list (nobody
  really wants to consider themselves a newbie).

* About 10% of the questions get cross-posted to both lists, no matter
  how many time you yell at people.

* A question gets asked and answered on one of the lists, but the
  user searches the other one, doesn't see the answer, and asks the
  same question again.

Personally, I'm unwilling to add to my own time commitment by scanning yet
another list every morning.

> By the way - the separate folder technique works until you
> take a trip for week and things get back logged.
>

Sounds like poorly designed or configured mail reader software to me.  I
mark the STRUTS-USER folder not to be downloaded when I'm accessing via
modem, so that Netscape won't bother trying to sync my local copy, and
then turn download back on again when I'm back to high speed connections.

> - Malcolm
>

Craig


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Assenza, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:43 AM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: all this traffic
>
>
> > Setting up your mail reader to automatically forward
> STRUTS-USER messages
> > to a separate folder, and then sorting by thread, is a
> trivially easy
> > approach to dealing with volume issues.  Your inbox is no
> longer clogged,
> > you can go read Struts mail when you have time, and can
> ignore entire
> > irrelevant threads with a single command to advance to the
> next thread.
>
> Indeed, that is in fact my method of choice for using this
> list.  All one
> has to do is look at subject headers to asses interest and
> move on.  I
> usually read everything I want to read and then delete the
> contents of the
> folder.
>
> There are some drawbacks to this approach [or any
> client-based solution]
> though, most notably if you have low size limits on your
> mail account or if
> you access your mail remotely on a regular basis (ie. a
> traveller).  Sitting
> in a hotel room waiting to communicate with Exchange (or
> worse POP3) becomes
> rather burdensome when there are 1k+ unread messages in the
> Struts folder.
> Overall, still the best approach, but I can definitely see
> why some people
> might want to reduce volume.  However, I'm not big on the
> struts-newbie list
> idea myself.
>
> -Chris
>
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