I am rather of the opinion that the struts versioning nomenclature is a wee
bit on the humble side. This beta release of 1.1 is pretty stable. I dont
see why you cant just loosen up your standards a bit and call it 1.1 , then
when all the bugs are fixed call that 1.2 , etc...
For 'bigger' or more stable version changes use bigger numbers. Really 1.1
is so much better then 1.02 that you should be calling it 2.0 when it is
released (and the current beta releases should be something like 1.99....)
That will help keep the corporate monkeys off peoples backs and lead to more
impressively high sounding version numbers. :-)

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From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of V. Cekvenich
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 08:36
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Struts 1.1 Release



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>I totally understand and agree with the release policy, but I think it's
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> worth remembering that a lot of these
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>>questions are driven by the constraints of users' environments - e.g. in
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> corporate environments like ours, there
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>>any many people like myself continually fighting to get great open source
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> products like Struts into the organisation
>
>>so that development teams can use them, and the latest versions of them.
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> However, this has to be done within the
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>>processes and policies that apply to any third party software, commercial
>
> or otherwise.
>
> Not trying to whine - but I fight the same battles. I work for a big,
> conservative company. Telling people it's a 'beta' release - regardless of
> what that means - makes it much more difficult to get things approved.
>
> Probably a greater percentage of your users than you realize are still
> using 1.02 for the sole reason that 1.1 is still called 'beta'. Worse,
> probably a lot of projects have started off that had to use 1.02 because
it
> was the 'stable release' - and then the development teams struggled. I saw
> one project dump struts because they had trouble getting it to do what
they
> wanted (they were forced to use 1.02).
>


IMO, That could not possibly be a source of failure. I and others had
1.02 projects just fine! Statistically 80% of projects fail due to
requirements, so that would be my first guess. (More numbers? most
projects fail period, and that 99% of code in production is written by
1% of programmers)
If they had tech issues, they could have gone with a experienced mentor
who has had Struts code in production before, which is cost effective.
And one needs to ask, why use open source?
http://www.opensource.org/advocacy/case_for_business.php
Because it is *better* quality is one good reason.

my 2c, .V


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