I know exactly what you are saying! However, since I started using vi about 6 months ago, my knowledge of the Java J2SE and J2EE API has increased 10-fold because I cannot use the tool-tip (dot-completion) crutch. Instead, I have to actually READ the damn thing and make my own assessment of what is appropriate. Then compile and run...oops! That wasn't the right method ...must...try...something...else...read...the...documentation.
:-) -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:andrew.david.hill@;gridnode.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 6:13 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] Swing.... [WAS: RE: [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v3.0] Id be lost without my JBuilder.... since I started using it my brains ability to store details of method names and parameters has dropped to zero. Without my helpful tooltips Id be taking that second option :-( -----Original Message----- From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:Galbreath@;tessco.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 19:10 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT] Swing.... [WAS: RE: [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v3.0] I agree, but then, I love Java - all of it (but especially the new 1.4 goodies!). I even loved AWT! But as an end-user app? Ugh! This is why I stopped using Forte, NetBeans, JDeveloper, JBuilder, etc. Resource hogs, only because they are built with Swing. Give me vi or give me death! -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:andrew.david.hill@;gridnode.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 6:02 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: [OT] Swing.... [WAS: RE: [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v3.0] I love Swing. hmm... actually come to think of it I love *developing* with Swing. Using it however... urrrgh! -----Original Message----- From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:Galbreath@;tessco.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 18:55 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCE] Struts Console v3.0 Swing sucks. When is Sun going to get it's act together on providing a lightweight GUI framework? Anybody read Alan Williamson's editorial in the 10/02 edition of "Java Developer's Journal?" Mark -----Original Message----- From: James Holmes [mailto:jholmes612@;yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 5:52 PM Struts Console is Swing not SWT. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:struts-user-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:struts-user-help@;jakarta.apache.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:struts-user-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:struts-user-help@;jakarta.apache.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:struts-user-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:struts-user-help@;jakarta.apache.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:struts-user-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:struts-user-help@;jakarta.apache.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:struts-user-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:struts-user-help@;jakarta.apache.org>