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-- James Mitchell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Micael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [OT] how do people work in project with one server for development > If you have the time, you can set up an environment in which you can do > everything through port 80 that you want to do. > > At 01:11 PM 2/6/03 -0500, you wrote: > > > Recently, I have been wondering if there are any sourceforge like > > > environments that can be used on a temporary basis for doing proprietary > > > development. Ya know... to sort of get around roadblocks with corporate > > > resources. :) > > > > > >Well, it won't matter if you are stuck behind a firewall that gives you port > >80 and 21 only!!!! > > > >If I seem a bit upset, I have just cause. I hate having to wait till I get > >home before I can get anything really important done. > > > >-- > >James Mitchell > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Tony Baity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:56 PM > >Subject: RE: [OT] how do people work in project with one server for > >development > > > > > > > > > > For those folks that have a little extra personal time to spare... and a > >laptop... and a way to transfer files from your work PC to your laptop.... > >Then freedom is just around the corner. > > > In the last year, I was cut loose from a very strictly controlled > >environment where the developers had to wait months while upper management > >tried to squeeze App Server and IDE Vendors down to lower and lower prices > >before someone finally would make a decision a buy something. So I > >understand the choking affect of code development decisions that are routed > >through the accounting department and upper management. But with Java and > >current open source efforts, anyone should be able to start development or > >work from home using open source and migrate over to vendor supplied > >products later. > > > I am now a consultant and have become used to carrying a laptop around. In > >fact, due to a recent client's development environment issues, I did the > >first month's development completely on the laptop and shared files at work > >through a network drive. The only problem I had was converting an Oracle > >schema to Pointbase (don't laugh... it got me through unit testing) > > > Recently, I have been wondering if there are any sourceforge like > >environments that can be used on a temporary basis for doing proprietary > >development. Ya know... to sort of get around roadblocks with corporate > >resources. :) > > > -Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Galbreath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:You read into it what you > >will, but the topic was software innovation in > > > corporate America. I was making an extreme point. If this offends you, > > > perhaps you take yourself too seriously. > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:13 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [OT] how do people work in project with one server for > > > development > > > > > > > > > Now we're onto Hitler? This is way too off topic even for posts designated > > > [OT]. > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark Galbreath" > > > >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" > > > >To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" > > > >Subject: RE: [OT] how do people work in project with one server for > > > >development > > > >Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:44:27 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > >That is way too simplistic, dude. Creativity is the catalyst for > > > >innovation. Stifle developers' ability to be creative and you lose > > > >innovation. American innovation have been so great over the centuries > > > >because business owners realized the value in R&D and being the first > > > >to patent a new innovation. That's what drove productivity and profits > > > >from the invention of the power loom to the cotton gin, interchangeable > > > >parts, Taylorism (scientific management), robotics, and software. What > > > >Simon is talking about are companies (or divisions) run by > > > >short-sighted people interested more often than not with their > > > >immediate personal welfare and/or the blind enforcement of a > > > >theoretical policy. Even a fascist pig like Hitler was responsible for > > > >the most innovative advances in weaponry in a 100 years not because he > > > >dictated policy, but because he gave his scientists freedom to > > > >innovate. > > > > > > > >Mark > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Michael C. Lee Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:21 AM > > > >To: Struts Users Mailing List > > > >Subject: Re: [OT] how do people work in project with one server for > > > >development > > > > > > > > > > > >I'm sorry, I have to repond to this communist drivel. > > > > > > > >"Welcome to Corporate America. Please leave your innovation at home, it > > > >will > > > >not be required at the office." No, that is your company...Landsend by > >the > > > >looks of it. And last I looked, Corporate America had more innovations > >per > > > >capita than Cuba or other similiar 'non-Corporate' countries. Landsend, > >and > > > >most other countries, want to make a profit. That is a motivating factor > >to > > > >innovate. Michael Lee > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Chappell, Simon P" > > > >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" > > > >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:17 AM > > > >Subject: RE: [OT] how do people work in project with one server for > > > >development > > > > > > > > > > > >As discussed in previous conversations, I am here for > > > >geographical/religious > > > >reasons and my employer is where you work if you're a programmer in this > > > >town. Many aspects of the company are good, but once in a while the stuff > > > >flowing downhill is crazier than usual. > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:03 AM > > > > >To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > > > > >Subject: RE: [OT] how do people work in project with one server for > > > > >development > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >That sucks! I would have to be desperate to work in such an > > > > >environment! > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:57 AM > > > > > > > > > >If only it were that simple. Some of us get WAS handed down to us > > > > >from a being so far up the corporate ladder that it still has frost > > > > >on it. This same breather of rarified air, then also decides that > > > > >once you're using WAS, > > > > >you should naturally use WSAD for your IDE. Oh ... and they're > > > > >going to lock > > > > >down workstations, so that you can't install free stuff on there to use > > > > >instead. > > > > > > > > > >Welcome to Corporate America. Please leave your innovation at home, > > > > >it will not be required at the office. > > > > > > > > > >Simon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > . > > > . > > > . > > > Tony Baity > > > . > > > . > > > . > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! 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