My understanding is that J# is only included in .NET to allow a transition path from Java to C#. It's definitely not one of the more supported .NET languages and it's *not* Java.

David

Whoa... MS Has released J#... that would be .NET Java.

Anybody used this? Maybe I could just build an app with struts... then copy the Business/Data Tier code to a .NET app in J#.

Is J# code compatible with REAL java?

Aaron Longwell wrote:

I hope I don't start a huge debate....

with that intro, here goes.

I am a freelance web developer. I've been struggling lately with not being able to use the Struts framework on ALL projects. Specifically, I do work with a number of Microsoft Devotees. For several sites, this has meant developing in old ASP.... like playing with Duplos compared to Struts.

I have been spending some time learning the .NET framework. So far it looks great... er, the features that look like Java look great. But then, why wouldn't I just use the more open, polished, community-oriented, original... Java? So now to the point... I don't have a choice for some projects... I have to use .NET.

I am curious if anyone is aware of an MVC-type framework for .NET. I am NOT looking for a Struts port to .NET. I started doing a little research, searching for things like "Best Practices" or ".NET Patterns" etc. I found almost nothing... no best practices guides. Not even a single recommendation about builing Object-based backend systems. In fact, most books I've read on ASP.NET and .NET in general have focused on database access code directly in the ASPX page itself....(in the "Code Behind" section).

Am I:

1) Naive to not notice that Java Enterprise developers are light-years ahead of MS developers in terms of programming practices, design patterns, and role separation?

2) Mistaken? There really are MVC frameworks in .NET... but they are all internal... and no community oriented projects exist.

Thanks for the input.

Aaron Longwell


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