All in all, vi or VIM remains the Real Programmer's editor!

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Korolyov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 1:01 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: J2EE IDE


Just IMHO:

1. Eclipse and JDeveloper are FREE
2. IDEA is better - their speeds up you're coding a lot VS. Eclipse and
JDeveloper

Setup Eclipse may take long time - all plug-ins, etc

If you (a company) have money - I'll go with IDEA
But who has money now?

Best Regards.
Michael.


-----Original Message-----
From: David Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:44 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: J2EE IDE

Raj,

I had slow Eclipse load times (no crashes
and no refresh issues) but my excuse was
that I ran it on a dual CPU PII/266 MHz
setup w/512 MB RAM (5 years old), not
something modern.  When I tried it in the
office on an AMD 1300+ processor w/512 MB
RAM, it loaded much faster and ran a somewhat
faster.  Just don't try developing Struts under
Tomcat on something because JSP compilation
times takes YEARS. :(

I'm developing remotely now so I switched
to VI over SSH.  Since I'm still learning
Struts/Java, I've found I'm learning it a
lot faster without the distraction of an
IDE.  Now that I'm getting a handle on Struts,
I'll probably switch back to Eclipse once I
upgrade my home computer, now an ancient
artifact.

Regards,
David

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 5:03 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: J2EE IDE



But eclipse has many problems at runtime.

Boot up time is too high.
Refresh time too high.
Crashes very often.

Am i  right on these points ?

thanks
-raj




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you should use eclipse, it doesn't use swing for GUI's, and it's faster than
the others.

F.

----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:46 AM
Subject: J2EE IDE


> Can someone please suggest me a free J2EE IDE suitable for development
of
> webapps using STRUTS. I know of some IDE's like the FORTE, ECLIPSE, 
> NETBEANS. However I wanted to ckeckout if anyone has already evaluated
any
> of these since I am not sure which one is easy to use and has
reasonably
> good features as well.
>
> Regards
> Sreekant G
>
>
>


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