Sorry for jumping in, but I've been lurking on this thread and I use this pattern quite frequently.
SetupAction ===> page ===> ProcessAction ===> page I have a dynamic form defined in my struts config file and mapped to both SetupAction and ProcessAction. I don't have to manually create the form because Struts does this for me. Its actually very simple: In SetupAction: ActionForward forward = mapping.findForward("success"); DynaBean input = (DynaBean)form; // populate input return forward Upon validation failure, my ProcessAction input attribute is set to the action mapping for SetupAction. I can see how this could be seen as a bit of a hack, but its just using the existing framework to meet my requirements. If the data to display is static I just place it in ServletContext when the application starts up and there is no need to necessarily have a SetupAction. Upon validation, you can simply forward directly to the input page. How is that clumsy? Am I missing something? robert > -----Original Message----- > From: Mainguy, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:44 PM > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > Subject: RE: [repost] Special view information -> ActionForm or request? > > > As far as the forms are concerned, I whole-heartedly agree that > the current > notion of populating the form "one the way" to getting mapped to the view > seems pretty clumsy. I would almost advocate having the forms to be > "pulled" (as above) out of some persistant service thingy (highly > technical > term). Of course, it would then require that we have some sort > of populate > or load method that will do something before we process anything. > It seems > also like a variation of how the dispatchaction works would be kinda cool. > Allowing, either based on URL or some other request info, you to determine > if you are doing a read or a write "before" you even get to the > action would > be the better way to go. > > Of course, that's just my perspective, but, your notion of the > clumsiness of > stuffing data into the form in the Action (especially after the > request data > has already been stuffed in there once) struck a chord with me. > > Evidently the development in struts is a little more active than > I thought, > I may have to start pulling down snapshots... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Germuska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:29 PM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: RE: [repost] Special view information -> ActionForm or request? > > > I don't have a very strong opinion, but for form *choices*, I've > always preferred to put them into some page-accessible context before > dispatching to a page. > > I wrote a class called DigestingPlugIn which was added to Struts > after the 1.1 release which is designed to make it easy to put a menu > like this into the application context so that it's always available > to all your pages, even if they don't go through an action before > display. Of course, if the choices are dynamic and specific to the > request or the session, this doesn't work, but for things like > sharing a menu of states or countries, it works pretty well. If you > aren't comfortable using unreleased Struts code, you can get a > library version of this class from http://demo.jgsullivan.com/struts/ > > Another alternative for request/session-specific options would be to > extend the OptionsCollection tag to be smarter about how it gets the > collection for iteration -- this would allow you to route people > directly to the JSP without needing to go through an action class. > > We've been having a vigorous discussion over the last couple of days > about the best way to prefill form *values* in a pre-validation > context, and to be honest, I feel like this is a use case which > Struts doesn't address very well. It feels clumsy to fool around > with creating an ActionForm and populating it "on the way" to the > view; should I just get over that? Or is this something about Struts > that deserves a closer look with an eye towards addressing the use > case more directly? I've been meaning to search the archives to see > what discussions have come up, but since I'm sending this message, I > guess I'll just dump it out there and see what people think... > > Joe > > > > > At 12:35 -0400 9/18/03, Mainguy, Mike wrote: > >I also would like other's opinion on this. Right now, use a service > >locator style class to stuff all my lookup stuff into the request > >object manually. I have, however, used collections in the formbeans for > >this. I can't, off the top of my head, think of any significant > >advantages to using a form bean. One disadvantage, however, is you can > >only have 1 form bean per action, so lookups across multiple actions > >will need to have duplicate code. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Sgarlata Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 10:15 AM > >To: Struts Users Mailing List > >Subject: [repost] Special view information -> ActionForm or request? > > > > > >Sorry for the repost. Has this already been discussed? I couldn't > >find it in the archives. > > > >Original message: > > > >Sometimes views need special information to display correctly, like a > >bean with the values needed to render a dropdown list. Is it > >considered a Struts best-practice to include this information in the > >ActionForm or should the Action which prepares this information store > >the information in the request instead? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Matt > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >This message and its contents (to include attachments) are the > >property of Kmart Corporation (Kmart) and may contain confidential > >and proprietary information. You are hereby notified that any > >disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking > >of any action based on information contained herein is strictly > >prohibited. Unauthorized use of information contained herein may > >subject you to civil and criminal prosecution and penalties. 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