Hi Joerg,
I think the problem should be fixable by doing the following two things:
- set option "--ride.stop-tolerance 0" (whereas the default is 10m)
- define a narrow range for the vehicle stop (startPos, endPos). Note, that
you can pick up persons waiting at a busStop even if the vehicle stop is
defined with (lane, startPos, endPos).

The ride.stop-tolerane is checked for entry and egress and should also
prevent getting out too early.
If you cannot get it to work with these suggestions, please send a small
scenario that shows the problem.

cheers,
Jakob


Am Mo., 30. Mai 2022 um 10:21 Uhr schrieb joerg <[email protected]>:

> Dear all,
>
> I observed some unexpected behavior at stops:
>
> 1. persons can enter or leave vehicles at stops, even though the vehicle
> is not at the lane where the stop is attached to, but also on lanes with
> a higher lane index (means they jump from the platform across lanes into
> the vehicle).
>
> 2. I noticed that persons  jump into vehicles even before they reached
> their edge-position according to the plan. The only condition to board
> seems to be that a vehicles stops in the defined position-range and a
> person just happens to be in this range when the vehicle stops. This
> seems to occur in more recent SUMO versions.
>
> Unfortunately with such a behavior I cannot selectively pick up persons
> with vehicles at dedicated positions, or just park vehicles at certain
> positions.
>
> I've been complaining about this behavior some time ago. I found a
> workaround, but especially the second behavior makes it impossible to do
> what I intend. For my purpose access lists do not help, and changing
> vehicle capacity dynamically through TraCi is not possible.
>
> So maybe someone of you did find a way to handle this type of problem.
> Otherwise I'd ask if it were a big issue to change code, there may be
> some really simple ways of fixing:
>
> - board only if vehicle is on the lane of the stop
>
> - allow change vehicle capacity through TraCi (one could  lock the
> vehicle by setting capacity to 0 or to the number of persons already in
> the vehicle, but that would not prevent persons jumping off the vehicle
> whenever it stops)
>
> - adding a Lock attribute to the vehicle, this would be the best
> solution and also closest to reality.
>
> Thanks as always for any ideas on this matter.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Joerg
>
>
>
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