Hi, I get something that i want to know about randomness flow on SUMO . I want to know that can i generate the flow with some fix number like 1200 vehicles per hour but use the probability to let the demand be randomness approximate to Poission distribution. As i read the documentation on SUMO wiki. I have found that these two attribute which are "probability" and "vehPerhour" cannot be defined together in SUMO.
Best regards, Jirayu 2017-04-13 14:00 GMT+07:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod <[email protected]>: > Thank for answering , Now i can generated the output by class of vehicle > type. Now i have consider on the output of edgedata. About a month ago, I > have asked about the density in SUMO which now i'm understanding that it's > calculated from dwelling time. But in the macroscopic model that i want to > verify, there's some definition about density which is the number of > vehicle at the end of time step in the considered cell (edge). Therefore, i > have read the documentation in wiki SUMO and found that the attribute > "arrived" has the same definition that i want. So i want to make sure that > my understanding is correct or not? > > Best regards, > > Jirayu > > > 2017-04-11 18:30 GMT+07:00 Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]>: > >> Hello, >> the 'vTypes' attribute is only available for E1 detectors since version >> 0.29.0. You are using an older version of sumo where these detectors used >> the attribute >> splitByType="true" >> to affect output split by types. Please refer to the documentation that >> came with your sumo version for details (or upgrade to the latest version >> instead). >> regards, >> Jakob >> >> 2017-04-10 6:41 GMT+02:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod <[email protected]> >> : >> >>> Dear Jakob, >>> Thank you, I have some few problems with loop detectors (E1) , when I >>> write the attribute "vTypes" to generate two type of vehicles output such >>> as bus and car. The outputs look to be the same in every generated output >>> i.e. flow, occupancy, speed,..., etc. and I have attached the additional >>> file that i have written. Do i understand something wrong ? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Jirayu >>> >>> 2017-04-10 2:38 GMT+07:00 Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> yes >>>> >>>> 2017-04-07 18:22 GMT+02:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod < >>>> [email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> Thank you for your kindness with information.If i use detector E1 or >>>>> E2 , all of generated output can be summed up to consider about the output >>>>> of that edge , isn't it ? >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Jirayu >>>>> >>>>> 2017-04-07 12:29 GMT+07:00 Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> my wording was imprecise. What I meant to say was: >>>>>> If you want to simulate detectors on all lanes of an edge you either >>>>>> need to use E2 (or E1) detectors for each lane or you can define an E3 >>>>>> detector that covers the whole edge. If you want to capture traffic data >>>>>> over the whole length of the edge you use edgeData-output as well ( >>>>>> http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Simulation/Output/Lane-_or_Edge-bas >>>>>> ed_Traffic_Measures) >>>>>> >>>>>> Sumo simulates lane-changing whenever there is more than 1 lane going >>>>>> in the same direction. >>>>>> When using the sublane-model (http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Simul >>>>>> ation/SublaneModel) lane-changing within a single lane is also >>>>>> supported. >>>>>> With a suitably prepared network, overtaking through the opposite >>>>>> direction edge is also supported (http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Simul >>>>>> ation/OppositeDirectionDriving) >>>>>> >>>>>> regards, >>>>>> Jakob >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2017-04-06 15:33 GMT+02:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod < >>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you Jakob, I have found some paper about lane changing in SUMO >>>>>>> but still don't follow up. Could you give me more information that now >>>>>>> SUMO >>>>>>> can do the lane changing in each edge or not and if it's , how to >>>>>>> adjust it >>>>>>> ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jirayu >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2017-04-03 16:58 GMT+07:00 Jakob Erdmann <[email protected] >>>>>>> >: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Only consecutive lanes can be simulated with E2 if you need >>>>>>>> parallel lanes you should use E3 instead. >>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>> Jakob >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2017-04-03 10:40 GMT+02:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod < >>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, Jakob >>>>>>>>> I have some few more questions which is about >>>>>>>>> areadetector in SUMO(E2) http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Simul >>>>>>>>> ation/Output/Lanearea_Detectors_(E2) . My question is can we >>>>>>>>> simulate areadetector such as L1_0,L1_1,L1_2 together in one detector >>>>>>>>> ? or >>>>>>>>> only consecutive lane can be simulated >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bank >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2017-02-15 15:17 GMT+07:00 Jakob Erdmann < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> yes >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-15 1:46 GMT+01:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much , if i consider on per edge then l = length >>>>>>>>>>> of the edge , am i right ? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> jirayu >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-14 23:28 GMT+07:00 Jakob Erdmann < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> density = s / t * 1000 / l >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>> s = sum of seconds all vehicles spent on the edge within the >>>>>>>>>>>> aggregation interval >>>>>>>>>>>> t = aggregation interval in seconds >>>>>>>>>>>> l = length of the lane in m >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Jakob >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-14 16:12 GMT+01:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear user and developers, >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have few question about density output that how >>>>>>>>>>>>> does density in SUMO calculate ? I mean that SUMO program is >>>>>>>>>>>>> calculated by >>>>>>>>>>>>> approximation with travel-time or count the vehicle in specified >>>>>>>>>>>>> edge or >>>>>>>>>>>>> others ? I want some information because i would use it in some >>>>>>>>>>>>> macroscopic >>>>>>>>>>>>> model. Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jirayu Tippayagulpairod >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-09 9:20 GMT+07:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much. It's helped me a lot >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-08 22:39 GMT+07:00 Jakob Erdmann < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes. (don't forget the quotes) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vTypes="bus" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-08 9:09 GMT+01:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh thank you very much, It means that you use this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <edgeData id="<MEASUREMENT_ID>" file="<OUTPUT_FILE>" vTypes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = bus/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and import this as additional file before simulation , am i >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bank >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-07 14:08 GMT+07:00 Jakob Erdmann < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the metrics you require will be available separately >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for each of the types you select (see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Simula >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tion/Output/Lane-_or_Edge-base >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d_Traffic_Measures#Value_Descriptions). By setting a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different value for the output 'file' attribute for each >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type, it is easy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to process them separately as well. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jakob >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-06 9:10 GMT+01:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your suggestion. But i still have some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confused that if i generate the output via edge data , Could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I export the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output that I mentioned before (edge performance e.g. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> density and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> traveltime ) I apologize for any misunderstanding .I am some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beginner in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SUMO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jirayu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-06 13:49 GMT+07:00 Jakob Erdmann < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When using simulated induction loops ( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Simul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ation/Output/Induction_Loops_Detectors_(E1)) you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set the attribute splitByType="true" to get type-specific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When using edgeData (http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Simul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ation/Output/Lane-_or_Edge-based_Traffic_Measures) you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can filter for type by setting the vTypes attribute (i.e. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vTypes="bus"). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You will then need a separate <edgeData>-definitions for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each type (or list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of types) you are interested in. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jakob >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-03 2:33 GMT+01:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear user and developers , >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm student in Thailand who do the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project with SUMO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program and I have some question to ask. As I used SUMO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> , it can simulate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the many type of vehicle in traffic and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output is in form of enter , left ,density , travel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time but it doesn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show each type of output (For example : I mean that 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outputs for car and 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outputs for bus individually) Therefore, I want to know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Can SUMO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulate the outputs individually for each type of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vehicles or it cannot ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jirayu Tippayagulpairod >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world's most >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://sdm.link/slashdot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ sumo-user mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sumo-user
