Dear All,
 
I have been puzzling over this for some time. 
 
If we establish some basic principles for constucting a consistant set of definitions for sundial constructions (see Fer's page) e.g.
  1. Formulas should be universal and therefore work in both hemispheres and with East and West longitudes.
  2. When measuring North-South Direction: North is positive, South is negative.
  3. When measuring time: Later times are represented by numbers more positive that the numbers representing earlier times.  Which implies that when measuring East-West direction: West is positive, East is negative.
  4. Angular measure and time differences are measured in degrees. This is done through the convention that 1 day = 1 rotation or 24hours = 360degrees.
Question:  Under these principles which of the two definitions for EOT makes the most sense? 
 
I have expressed the opinion that the first (or older) definition is consistant with the above principles.  Now however I wonder if I haven't missed something?
 
Regards,
 
David
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of fer j. de vries
Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2001 3:49 AM
To: sundial
Subject: EoT

Hello Yvon,

In a Dutch book about sundials I read that in The Netherlands the definition
of the Eot was:
EoT = mean time - solar time
This means in november the sign is negative.

In about 1930 a new and international definition was accepted.
EoT = solar time - mean time
This means in november the sign is positive.

During a certain period both definitions were used, even in the same issue
of a magazin.
After the second worldwar usualy only the international definition is used.

Best wishes, Fer.

Fer J. de Vries
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.iae.nl/users/ferdv/
Eindhoven, Netherlands
lat.  51:30 N      long.  5:30 E

----- Original Message -----
From: Yvon Massé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: sundial list <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 12:16 AM
Subject: Equation of time


 > Hello all,
 >
 > Ooops!... Of course, I make a mistake:
 >
 > >For example in France, traditionally: EoT = real time - mean time
 > >while in USA: Eot = mean time - real time.
 >
 > Please read:
 > For example in France, traditionally: EoT = local mean time - solar time
 > while in USA: Eot = solar time - local mean time.
 >
 > Yvon
 >

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