Hi Dave,

When the moon was full on 30 December, its declination was 24 degrees north.
Using the formula below this would put it at an altitude of 76.7 degrees at
your latitude. This is half a degree higher than the sun ever gets at your
latitude. The moon can get to a declination of ~29 degrees as its orbital
plane is tilted about 6 degrees from the ecliptic. The moon can get even
closer to the zenith at your location.

It is hard to judge how close celestial bodies are to the zenith. One trick
is to turn around, full circle while watching the body. The distance from
the zenith is much more apparent when you have seen it from all sides as you
turn.

Roger Bailey
Walking Shadow Designs
N 51  w 115
where the sun only gets to an altitude of 15.5 degrees these days!


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Sent: January 6, 2002 6:20 PM
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On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, fer j. de vries wrote:

> The max. altitude of the sun h = 90 - phi + 23.5 degrees.

This reminded me of something I saw recently, that was a bit of a puzzle:

I live at 37.3N latitude. This puts the mean plane of the Ecliptic at
something like 52.7 degrees elevation. Near the Winter Solstice, the Sun
is 23.5 degrees depressed, or a maximum elevation of 29.2 degrees. I can't
recall offhand what the angle of the Moon's orbit is, relative to the
Ecliptic, but a week or so back, very near full Moon, we came out of a
movie theater late, near midnight. I would swear the Moon was barely 5 or
10 degrees off the Zenith! It seemed hard to imagine, at this time of year
in the North...

Dave
37.29N 121.97W

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