Hi John,

For holding strength through a thick piece of glass you would need a 
magnet that had such a strong field over that gap.  The Rare Earth 
magnets, although extremely strong at short distances have a field 
that falls off quickly with distance.  Two long flat bar Alnico magnets, 
on inside and the other embedded in the gnomon would probably 
work better.  Rare Earth magnets embedded in 400 series Stainless 
Steel might work ( + at one end, - at the other), since the steel would 
function as a magnetic shunt, increasing the gap strength.  I don't 
know about plating the Rare Earth magnets, but Alnico can be plated.  
You might still want to have some silicone or polyurethane in the 
sandwich to protect the glass.  Someone might like to go through the 
magnetic equations to optimise the structure against extreme wind 
conditions, etc.

Hope this helps!

Edley McKnight
Ancient in Oregon.

From:                   "John Carmichael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:                     "Sundial List" <[email protected]>
Subject:                Magnetic Gnomon Attachment
Date sent:              Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:30:13 -0700
Send reply to:          "John Carmichael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Hello All:

Two weeks ago, I attached the gnomon to my bay window stained 
glass sundial.In the original prototype, I had used a brass baseplate 
adhered to the outer protectiveglass with silicone. But this baseplate 
was a little ugly becauseyou could see itbehind thepainted 
sunnface piece in the sg panel.So instead,Iepoxied therod & 
sheet gnomon to a 3" square piece of clear glass and then siliconed 
it to the outer protective pane. The edges ofthe baseplateline up 
with the lead came sothe baseplate isinvisible from inside the room. 
(you can see new photos on the SGS website).

Anyway, I've been thinking that for some future project, that it would 
be possible to attach the gnomon to the SGS using a magnet. If a 
piece of stainless steel were in the stained glass design, and if the 
gnomon baseplate were a magnet (or vias versa), then you could 
secure the gnomon to the SGS without fear that it could crack the 
glass. If somebody bumped into the gnomon, it would simply fall off, 
avoiding any damage to the glass.

If you have a double-paned window, you could glue the magnet to 
the inside or outside of the outer protective pane.

Nobody has used this method, but I think it might work. (you could 
do the samefor atable-top analemmatic to keep the gnomon in 
place during high winds).

John

John L. Carmichael
Sundial Sculptures
925 E. Foothills Dr.
Tucson AZ 85718-4716
USA
Tel: 520-6961709
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Websites:
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