That holds even more merit for we who work in indoor jobs from say 8:00 AM
to 5:00 PM!

I wouldn't mind so mucj going to work in the dark (as I do half the year,
anyway), if I had perhaps 6 hours of good daylight, once I got home!

 

Dave

 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Willy Leenders
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 7:10 AM
To: Sundial List
Subject: Re: AW: Year-round day saving time 

 

We, sundial  experts are not very pleased with DST.
This dissatisfaction is due not so much to DST but to the organization of
our daily routine.
We sleep from 23.00 pm to 7.00 am.

Our active day is from 7.00 am to 23.00 pm.
The middle of the active day is at 15.00 pm.
If winter time is on use the real noon in my location is at average 12.40 pm
When DST is on use the real noon is at 13.40 pm
There should be an extra hour added to DST !

Then the real noon almost coincides with the middle of our active day.

We then use the maximum sunlight during our activities.





The Russian government is not so stupid !

 

Willy Leenders

Hasselt in Flanders (Belgium)

 

Visit my website about the sundials in the province of Limburg (Flanders)
with a section 'worth knowing about sundials' (mostly in Dutch):
http://www.wijzerweb.be

 

 

 

 

 

 

Op 27-mrt-2011, om 20:09 heeft Andrew Pettit het volgende geschreven:





I can thoroughly recommend a really good book (I'm only half way through
it) that was suggested to me by another member of this list.

"Saving the Daylight" by David Prerau.

My thoughts at present are that a number of issues have really driven the
widespread adoption of DST:

The realization that noon to noon differed at different times of the year.
Hence the adoption of "Mean Time".

Railways needed to standardise time ~ even more in "wide" counties like the
US and Russia than in the UK. Hence the adoption of time zones.

Noon (by the sun) was not customarily in the middle of the working day.
Various working groups &/or employers can see an economic benefit to
maintaining solar time or changing the clocks.

DST was first proposed by Benjamin Franklin in 1784. He failed to get it the
idea adopted.

Later it was championed by William Willett in the UK early in the 20th
century. He gained much support and spent a great deal of his own money
promoting the idea. He failed to get it adopted though it was brought to the
UK parliaments several times.

The Kaiser adopted the idea in April 1916 to help the war effort and the UK
followed suit almost immediately.

It seems that the UK, like Russia, might once again be thinking about
permanent DST.

Sundials tell the time by the sun, clocks tell us how we should co-ordinate
activities with other people.

OK I've probably now shown that I need to finish reading the book! 

Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Frank King
Sent: 27 March 2011 12:20
To: Reinhold Kriegler
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: AW: Year-round day saving time 

Dear Reinhold,

I see you are trying to provoke me...




Frank King will tell us perhaps a nice sounding Latin expression?!


This is the worst day of the year for me, truly...

        Dies irae, dies illa...

The day of wrath, that day... :-)

Or, perhaps, you seek my thoughts on whoever first decided that daylight
saving time saves any daylight...

 Contemni est gravius stultitiae quam percuti

To a fool it is worse to be in receipt of contempt than to be thrashed.

I am not familiar with the Bremen cow but I am sure she deserves my sympathy
as do the even more famous Bremen donkey, dog, cat and hen, your
Stadtmusikanten.

As well as sympathising with all the livestock in Bremen I am 95% with Mike
Shaw...




I'm losing a lot of my potential time in the sun today sitting indoors 

changing all my clocks.


Don't bother Mike.  Leave them at GMT!

Oh.  One more thing.  Mike says...




If we ignore refraction effects, everywhere gets an average of 12 

hours per day with the sun above the horizon, doesn't it?


Not quite true.  We in the northern hemisphere average rather more than 12
hours per day because the sun has a positive declination for about a week
longer each year than it has a negative declination.

I extend my sympathy to those readers who live in the antipodes.

Frank

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