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Dear Johnand members of the Sundial List,

 

These arethe greek names for the respective solstices and the equinoxes carved 
on over25 ancient sundials (planar and hollow), most of them are in Sharon 
Gibbs’ book(from Delos: 1001, 1072, 4001; from Pompeii: 4007; from Rome: 4008, 
4009, 4010;from Ephesos: 3058: etc).

As for thefront face, normally it should be oblique in the plane of 
thecelestial equator, but it happens that some ancient conical and spherical 
sundialsare not. Here the image is misleading because the disappearanceof the 
corners can give the impression that the face is vertical. We should have a 
side photo to know what it really is.

 

Regards

 

AliGuerbabi

35.547 N /6.16 E


    Le jeudi 9 avril 2020 à 08:54:55 UTC+1, John Davis via sundial 
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The picture that Dan-George pointed us to is excellent and intriguing too. My 
reading of the lettering is slightly different from yours. Starting from the 
top (presumably the winter solstice), I get 
X  I  M  E  P  I  N  H       H  M  E  P  I  N  H       E  P   I    N H
where the columns represent the spaces between the hour lines. There could be 
some misreadings here. It is clearly not the standard Greek system of using the 
first letters of their alphabet as numbers but I don’t recognise the names of 
the seasons either. Looking through Sharon Gibbs’ book, I couldn’t find a 
similar set of inscriptions. Can any classical scholars help us?
As a second point, the front face of the marble looks to be vertical in the 
photo but I found another view online which seems to show it cut back at an 
oblique angle. Both forms of dial are known - which is this?
Regards,
John 
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Dr J Davis
Flowton Dials http://www.flowton-dials.co.uk/
BSS Editor http://sundialsoc.org.uk/publications/the-bss-bulletin/

On 8 Apr 2020, at 18:37, Maes, F.W. <[email protected]> wrote:


Dan-George, thank you for the link! That is a beautiful ancient scaphe dial.The 
article says: "The sundial features ... Greek names of seasons". I can read a 
number of characters, which at all three date lines (equinox and solstices) 
seem to include MEPINH. What season names are these?
Keep healthy!
Frans Maes
 
On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 12:33 PM Roser Raluy <[email protected]> wrote:

Thank you, it looks great!Roser Raluy
Missatge de Dan-George Uza <[email protected]> del dia dt., 7 d’abr. 2020 
a les 10:12:

Hello, I've just read about the discovery of an antique sundial in Turkey.
https://www.dailysabah.com/life/history/2000-year-old-sundial-unearthed-in-southern-turkeys-denizli

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