I think SunRays as a service is a terrific idea too. Except the video. Unless 
you are only going after store front services and call centers as your 
customers. About once a month I get request to "fix" the video support so our 
users can watch their training videos. Smaller business, like those that would 
pay for a services like this, won't like being told that their training video 
for their favorite accounting package cannot be viewed.

Fox

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ivar Janmaat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "SunRay-Users mailing list" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] Sun desktop grid to power "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ?
> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:06:14 +0200
> 
> 
> Hello Jerry,
> 
> The price of $50 was only for the consumer Sun ray hardware.
> I think the Sun ray is of the same complexity as a wireless 
> consumer router which is also priced around $50.
> If you can mass produce the Sunray for this price I think the 
> business model will be very different.
> 
> Ivar
> 
> Jerry Callison wrote:
> 
> >
> > Ivar Janmaat wrote:
> >
> >> Jerry Callison wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, we support multiple companies from a central server farm.
> >>
> >>
> >> Interesting. Are you delivering JDS or MS Windows as a service?
> >
> >
> > I am interested in offering JDS, but so far MS Windows has had a 
> > lot more sales traction.  Most decision makers that I have met 
> > with do not know there is an option other than MS Windows.  I can 
> > (and do) communicate, train, and even offer free JDS service for 
> > a trial, but it is still an uphill battle if they have never even 
> > heard of it.
> >
> > Furthermore, there are many more vertical apps in the market than 
> > I had ever imagined previously, many of which require MS Windows. 
> >  My partners and I have been looking at what it would take to 
> > convert or rewrite these apps so they could run on Solaris 10.  
> > If anyone at Sun is listening (teehee, I know you are!), then I 
> > would love an opportunity to discuss this further.
> >
> >>> My opinion on a centrally-managed, consumer-oriented Sun Ray 
> >>> service is that one would need to be very careful to target the 
> >>> right consumer group.
> >>
> >>
> >> I totally agree.  I can also imagine that there are consumers who want 
> >> both.
> >> In order to get to this point however you need consumer prices 
> >> say $50 for a Sunray and fast scalability of the servers.
> >
> >
> > I agree with this as well.  A hybrid environment for consumers 
> > would be very beneficial for many households.  I think your price 
> > point is right, but I have not yet decided whether this service 
> > could be operated profitably.
> >
> >> I think the right order to get to the consumer would be:
> >> SME businesses
> >> SME businesses working at home
> >> Selected consumer groups.
> >> Broader consumer availability.
> >> I estimate the whole process will take 10 years at the rate we 
> >> are going now.
> >
> >
> > I think your order is right on target.  Regarding the timing, I 
> > would encourage you to check out _The Innovator's Dilemma_, by 
> > Clayton Christensen.  I think the Sun Rays would qualify as a 
> > disruptive technology.
> >
> > It's good to hear that there are others doing the same thing.  I 
> > know of a couple of other people who are also considering making 
> > the leap.
> > -jerry
> >
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