Thank you!  It's the Rosetta Stone for Sun Ray.  :-)

Seriously, you guys rule.

-tom


>>>>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:20:38 -0700, ottomeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

    > On 3/21/07, Thomas L Baca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    >> This brings forward the general question of what are the semantics of
    >> -a, -A, and -L.  From the docs, the simple rule is to use -a for
    >> "dedicated interconnect" and -A for "shared network".  The manual says
    >> that -A also turns on the "LAN connection" a la -L.

    > '-a <interface>' tells SRSS that the subnet attached to that interface
    > is an "interconnect", a subnet that is dedicated to carrying Sun Ray
    > traffic and that has no connectivity to any other subnets.  When you
    > set up an interconnect 'utadm' knows that the Sun Rays will need to
    > be told to contact the server at its IP address on the interconnect, so
    > that's how 'utadm' sets up the DHCP parameters for this subnet.  The
    > fact that this subnet is an interconnect is remembered; it's a factor
    > when this server tries to decide whether to offer sessions to Sun Ray
    > units, and it's important if this server ever needs to redirect DTUs on
    > the interconnect to other servers on the interconnect.

    > '-L on' tells SRSS that it's OK for this server to offer sessions to Sun
    > Ray units that connect from subnets that are not dedicated
    > interconnects.  By default SRSS will offer sessions only to units
    > that connect from subnets that have been declared (by 'utadm -a')
    > to be interconnects.

    > '-A <subnet>' tells SRSS that you want to set up DHCP on this
    > server to deliver parameters to the given subnet, and possibly to
    > issue IP address leases to the given subnet.  '-A' tells SRSS that
    > even though you want DHCP to do something for this subnet, the
    > subnet is not an interconnect -- it's just another subnet on a
    > fully-connected internet.  . '-A' therefore implies that you want this
    > server to offer sessions to Sun Ray units on non-interconnect
    > subnets, so in addition to setting up DHCP it automatically does
    > the equivalent of '-L on' for you.

    >> In our facility, we have multiple class C IP subnets running on the
    >> same VLAN (we have no direct control of VLAN configs - that's campus
    >> networking) and are starting to have DTUs and servers on various of
    >> the IP subnets (but on the same LAN!).  I believe this circumstance is
    >> causing some of our confusion as it may not be common in Sun Ray
    >> deployments.

    > If you have no interconnects then you won't use '-a' at all.  Your
    > Sun Rays are on your internet so you'd use '-A' for each subnet
    > where you wanted the Sun Ray server to offer some degree of
    > DHCP service to the subnet.  If you didn't want the server to
    > provide DHCP service to any subnets then you'd just run '-L on'
    > once.

    >> Also, this all ties in to the various status flags in the utgstatus
    >> output...  How do the T N U A M flags relate to those utadm configs?

    > -a/-A/-L do not affect T or N.

    > T and N are per-host flags.  T is "Trusted", which means that that
    > server has demonstrated that it belongs to the same Sun Ray host
    > group as the server you ran 'utgstatus' against.  'N' is "oNline" which
    > means that the server may bid to provide a new session when one
    > needs to be created within its group.  (That's controlled by 'utadm -n'
    > and 'utadm -f'.)

    > U, A and M are per-subnet flags.  U (for Up) means that this server
    > has recently received Sun Ray group membership announcements
    > from that server over that subnet.  A (for Active) means that that
    > server is willing to offer sessions to Sun Ray units that connect to it
    > over that subnet.  (So, for instance, a server that is offering sessions
    > only to interconnects will not advertise A on its non-interconnect
    > subnets, and other servers should not automatically redirect units
    > to that server's address on those non-A subnets.)  M means that
    > that server considers that subnet to be an interconnect.  (M is for
    > Managed.  We could have used I for interconnect but with some
    > fonts I looks like l or 1 so we went with M.  D for Dedicated was
    > another possibility but we worried that people might mistake it  for
    > Down.)

    > So '-a' causes M and causes A on M subnets.  '-A' and '-L on'
    > cause A on non-M subnets.

    > U isn't tied to any options, it's produced entirely by packet
    > reception.

    > OttoM.
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    > ottomeister

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