Sorry there was another typo there

Also i dont want to DISABLE direct session access because its a good
security feature on the cards. I could live without it on NSCM sessions.


Anyhoo, AMGH seems to be solving all my problems here. How easy would it
be to implement? could i mold my kiosk script to work with AMGH? Would
you have any sample AMGH setups that i could view?

For some reason thought AMGH was for big multi nationals that had
campuses all around the world :).

Your help is really appreciated.

Cheers.







Bob Doolittle wrote:
> Thanks for the details. Comments inline:
>
> David Markey wrote:
>> Ok to explain why its inconvenient i'll try to explain my setup. Please
>> note i may have designed this ass about face, so if anyone can see any
>> improvements let me know.
>>
>> The SunRays are configured to connect to a single T1000 "Broker" Machine
>> called antrim.
>>
>> This has a custom kiosk mode with NSCM. Students log into NSCM login
>> with their ldap/kerberos ID. the kiosk script then generates a list of
>> machines (based on ldap group membership), puts the list of machines in
>> a nice GUI and presents it the the user.
>> If the users picks a windows machine this is trivial, we just use the
>> windows connector. If they pick a Linux/Solaris machine then utswitch is
>> used to switch to the desired machine, it is designed that these other
>> SunRay servers have standard solaris and linux sessions(also with NSCM),
>> the only kiosk mode is on the broker "antrim". For this example i'll
>> call one other solaris sunray server mayo(The one students get a JDS
>> session on)
>>
>> The problems with this design
>>
>> 1. I want to utswitch back to the "Broker" machine mayo when the session
>> on the other solaris/linux session has ended(i have achieved this with a
>> hack)
>>   
>
> One word - AMGH. Write an AMGH script that always returns
> "use_firstserver=true".
> If you're using utswitch to direct the user to their server, that will
> override AMGH when they are connecting. However, when they log out (or
> disconnect their session or remove their smartcard) AMGH will take
> effect and send the DTU back.
>
>> 2. When i utswitch back the broker i want to clear all usernames(Bob you
>> have covered this i think)
>>   
>
> AMGH wouldn't have this issue.
>
>> 3. On the solaris desktop server, mayo, when the student locks his/het
>> JDS session i want it to either not show the  NSCM login(just
>> gnome-screensaver) or utswitch back to the broker. The reason for this
>> is if the next student sits down and logs in they will get a solaris
>> session and not the GUI  selector because he/she will be logging into
>> mayo and not antrim(the broker).
>>   
>
> Not with AMGH :)
>
> But I still don't see how gnome-screensaver helps here, vs NSCM login.
> In either case (without AMGH) you'll be on mayo, when you want to be
> on antrim. So why is gnome-screensaver better? Have you applied some
> hack to gnome-screensaver to send you back to antrim?
>
>> My case is probably a very isolated one.
>>
>>
>> Also i dont want to enable direct session access because its a good
>> security feature on the cards. I could live without it on NSCM sessions.
>>   
>
> Wow - that's a pretty odd requirement (sorry), and one we've never
> considered.
> First off, the security implications regarding token spoofing for card
> and non-card use are identical. So really the requirements should be
> the same.
> I take this as implying that you're willing to live with less security
> in the NSCM case.
>
> Let me know what you think of the AMGH idea - that would seem to
> greatly simplify your situation, as well as meet your requirements
> without compromising security for NSCM users.
>
> -Bob
>
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