Thanks Craig, this is actually the best summary of the WVDA issues that I've seen anywhere.
Ceri On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 02:57:18PM -0700, Craig Bender wrote: > All taken care of. > > I just talked to Larry Ellison (he as out sailing an still took my > call!) who gave me Bill Gates' cell phone. Bill said if if you forward > this email out to 1000 people from a Windows 7 PC using Outlook, his > friends at Intel will track that you are a Windows 7 and Outlook user. > They will send you a free Windows VDA license, and also Free copy of > Office 2010 Professional for each of your friends that forward it on. I > also read something about this in the USA TODAY, so it has to be true. > All part of some MS/AOL email beta test. > > OK, joking. But seriously? Please explain how is the hurting the Sun > Ray business case? Why don't you hurt Microsoft and run Linux or > Solaris and publish Windows apps from a terminal server via SGD? > > To be clear: > > ANY Non-Windows 7 device needs a WVDA license (all Wyse, all HP, all > Igel, all Dell, All EVERYTHING) > > ALL Windows 7 device not covered by an enterprise Software Assurance > agreement has to pay for a WDA license. > > All non-corporate owned devices has to pay for a WVDA license. That > includes the bosses iPad that the tech guy loaded the Desktop Receiver > to accesses their XenDesktop install on. > > This is true for Citrix XenDesktop, VMware View, nComputing, and even > Microsoft VDI. > > All of the above includes, is not limited to: > > -Non-corporate owned PCs (i.e. a Contractor's PC) > > -Devices that are do not run Windows 7 > > -All non-windows based thin-clients > > -All Thin Clients running non-SA covered versions of MS Operating System > i.e. WinCE or Embedded XP thin clients must purchase WVDA > > -Smart phones (iPhone, BlackBerry, etc) > > -Apple Products. Macbook, iPad, iMac > > -Linux/Unix based desktops or laptop > > -PCs with OEM Windows 7 licenses that are 90 days past their purchase date. > i.e. PCs bought in January can be upgraded to SA cover available through > March, but not in April > > Sure, you get some "roaming rights". But only for non-corporate owned > devices that access the VDI infrastructure from *OUTSIDE* the corporate > network. So that iPad you brought in on Weds? WVDA required. That > blackberry tablet the company owns? WVDA required. > > BTW, you get the same roaming rights with a WVDA, so you can use your > home PC or Mac to access the VDI if you got WVDA for your corp purchased > Sun Ray. > > So if you don't want to pay for a MS VDA license you have three options: > > 1) Don't run Windows via VDI. Use Ubuntu, it's great. > 2) If you need Windows, use Terminal Services > 3) Buy a PC with Windows 7 on it and run OVDC. Upgrade to SA (if you > can) and then pay 27% of the OS cost a year for a 3 year minimum. > > Oh, you directed purchasing to buy Win 7 Ultimate for everyone? Ouch. > -Also, be prepared lose all the security, admin, and power savings of a > true thin client. > -If buying a Windows 7 "cloud PC", please refer to the previous email > about the maintenance costs of the Sun Ray 3i being too high and be sure > to add on all the "extras" you will be charged to manage this "Cloud PC" > in the same manner as you would a Sun Ray. > > If you can't make the case for Sun Ray over a PC running Windows 7 to > access a VDI environment, then everyone who makes a non-windows 7 SA > capable device or software client for a non-windows 7 SA capable should > just get out of the business right now. > > > > On 3/16/11 2:03 PM, Ivar Janmaat wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Is there any news on the VDA licenses from Microsoft? > > The yearly $100 license is hurting the Sun ray business cases. > > Is Oracle addressing this issue? > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Ivar > > _______________________________________________ > > SunRay-Users mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users > _______________________________________________ > SunRay-Users mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users -- Haffely, Gaffely, Gaffely, Gonward. _______________________________________________ SunRay-Users mailing list [email protected] http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users
