I'll agree with almost everything you've said, as a loyal cloner myself 
(S900). There's still the issue of a slow system bus on the SuperMac. 
That's a problem that we can't "work-around". Jaguar runs well but 
slowly off of it's committed ATA drive on my machine. OS 9.1 runs 
faster and trouble-free off of it's own SCSI drive... I much prefer OSX 
though. And you're right about the money factor... a dollar spent is a 
dollar lost if it's thrown at the name on the case instead of what's 
inside of the case! I know more about my machine because I built it... 
I probably couldn't say that if it had been an out-of-the-box deal on a 
new G4 system. Don't get me wrong here... Id love to have one of those 
gorgeous new machines... I just can't see spending the money for one... 
and I definitely WON'T go to a Windows machine! I'm not the follower 
type!

Eric
On Sunday, January 12, 2003, at 05:46 PM, Dan Stewart wrote:

>> From: Shawn Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> That the current Motorola Processors well...suck.
>> MHZ smegahertz, Apple will still be considered a redheaded stepchild 
>> by the
>> unknowledgeable masses until they can ditch Moto and get some serious 
>> power
>> behind Jaguar. A 3GHZ PC running a crappy Winblows XP is going to 
>> sell ALOT
>> better than a machine that just cracks 1GHZ. I mean the masses just 
>> aren't
>> real bright...how else do you explain the WWE or NASCAR ?
>
> Actually, "the masses" are smart enough to realize that a faster 
> machine for
> less money, running Windows, is the better buy.
>
> Look, the real Mac Loonies can rave all they want about This Year's 
> Case and
> This Year's Color, but the fact remains that the current Macs are 
> simply -
> as always - overpriced and underpowered.
>
> That's why I bought a bare bones S900 (case, power, motherboard and 
> CPU)on
> eBay and built it up myself.   It's currently running 10.2.3 on 688 
> megs
> ram, a 450mhz G4 CPU, various IDE and SCSI hard drives and an IDE 
> CD/RW.
> All for around $750.  Plus, that $750 was spread out over about 18 
> months!
> No single big hit to the credit card.   That's another (often 
> overlooked)
> advantage to "build it yourself"!
>
> I can upgrade it even further with a better video card, faster CPU, or 
> add
> USB and/or firewire.
>
> I'll never buy a new Mac.    If I were in the market now, I'd buy a 
> used G3
> or G4 tower and upgrade it.
>
> Just my opinion.   YMMV, and all that.
>
> Dan
>
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