> From: Olli-Matti Lahtimies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 21:42:39 +0200 > Newertech and now Sonnet recommends both FPM memory with uppgrade > cards and > UMAX clones. > > This is what Sonnets support Neal wrote yesterday and let me share > information with listers: > > "Some Umax manuals say that you can only use EDO memory in > >their machines. DON"T BELIEVE THEM!!! Fast Page Mode memory > >works just fine, and with the same performance. In fact, Umax > >machines faster than 180Mhz WILL NOT FUNCTION PROPERLY with EDO > memory." > > This is part from answer concerning question about troubles installing > Jaguar with G4800MHz. > > Olli-Matti
NewerTech ( the old company which is now gone) Wrote a guide for memory use in Macs. I've found that many ram sellers use it as a guide due to a lack of other guides to use. It has several serious errors in it. The above quote is one of them. It wasn't true when it was written and it's not true now! It was going to be changed in an update to the guide but was never written due to company going under. I am referring to " UMAX machines faster then 180mhz will not function properly with EDO memory" false info!!!!!!!!!" So while it is possible you have some defective memory I wouldn't go out and replace it all based on this old defective info! Shame on Sonnet for using old defective info. It is possible their G800 upgrades has issues with some ram but to use an old defective guide as reason for saying this is crazy IMHO. In fact I am sure running at 800mhz is going to cause issues with some ram. However 128 ram currently being sold should work unless it is defective. Writing a FAQ for memory isn't going to be easy. It seems to me everyone has a "Hooray for our side" attitude about this. What I mean by that is look at the posts lately and over the years. It is clear that what worked for one person doesn't always work for another . One person says only FPM ram should be used failing to take into consideration many have good luck with EDO. Also differences in the S900/J700 C500/600 series of machines isn't being mentioned. Which likely confuses newbies to the list. I will admit my part in being of the EDO camp in past years. It seemed to be true at the time. I had Macgurus to back me up and after all I had both J700 and C series machines which both worked great with the EDO ram. In fact C series machines seem to need EDO ram if you want to run it with the full amount of ram which is 2 64mb chips. Is anyone running a C series machine with 2 64mb ram chips that are anything but EDO 2k refresh? Part of the issue is RAM has changed over the years. It used to be RAM was expensive but rarely defective. It was just a matter of finding what would work in your machine. I have spoken with a local ram dealer who used to make most of there own ram chips which they sold. It was really more like putting the ram boards together using high quality ram chips they bought. This is now less then 10 percent of their business. They can't compete with the cheap stuff coming in from all over. RAM for our machines is now made using cheap PC 3.3 volt ram chips and a 5 volt converter chip so it works in our machines. The original type ram is no longer even being made as far as I can tell. The amount of defective ram is sky high compared to the old style ram but the price is right! It has always been important to buy from a source that would replace defective ram or ram that doesn't work in your machine .It is even more important now days with all the crap being sold. Any FAQ that picks either EDO or FPM is going to be suspect to many. This will need to be looked at hard and long before any final FAQ memory guide can be written IMHO Will S -- SuperMacs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | Service & Replacement Parts [EMAIL PROTECTED] | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> SuperMacs list info: <http://lowendmac.com/supermacs/list.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/supermacs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --------------------------------------------------------------- >The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---------------------------------------------------------------
