On 12/1/2009 10:17 PM, Bush wrote:
> Leonidas Jones wrote:
>> Bush wrote:
>>> Bush wrote:
>>>> David Wilkinson wrote:
>>>>> Bush wrote:
>>>>>>> It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the
>>>>>>> user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours,
>>>>>>> which does).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please follow what I said ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They say hers is Not Spoofed with 1.1.14
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And they say Mine is spoofed with 1.1.18
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an
>>>>>> account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer .
>>>>>> One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will
>>>>>> Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey in Front of the TV
>>>>>> guide page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to
>>>>>> Photobucket .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they
>>>>>> are saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And put a link to Each screenshot here .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This will be Done Tomorrow .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will this Satified All of YOU ?
>>>>> I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled
>>>>> by what you are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version
>>>>> of 1.x or 2.0 says the TVGuide site does not work correctly.
>>>>>
>>>> When I had 2.0 om my computer I do not think I went to The TV guide
>>>> site . But I did go to the blm site and IT did not view the site .
>>>>
>>>> I uninstalled 2.0
>>>>
>>>> reinstalled 1.1.18 and I can view Both Sites .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My Wife Has XP and seamonkey 1.1.14 And her computer Can View Both
>>>> Sites .And the TV guide sit does show the info on the programs when I
>>>> click it and the info is in a RED box that has a White background
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I view it the Same way on my computer as hers .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I do have the Photobucket site Set up
>>>> But I think u want to see my wifes computer Screenshot .. Her computer
>>>> is in the Bedroom and I will be in Big trouble if I go in their and
>>>> turn on the lights .
>>>>
>>>> I am going to Create a screen shot of my computer with the TVguide
>>>> site and also the about seamonkey page .. The link will be in the next
>>>> line
>>>>
>>>> I hope this works tomorrow I will do one from my wifes computer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/?action=view¤t=tvguide.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> This may work better
>>>
>>>
>>> http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/tvguide.jpg
>> Sure, it shows your spoofed UA as FF 2.0.0.7, of course it works, that
>> was never in question.
>>
>> Lee
> What does the seamonkey 2.0 about seamonkey Say ?
>
> Does it say Firefox or does it say Seamonkey or Mozilla...
The problem is that, when Web servers sniff for the user agent (UA)
string that identifies the browser, the software doing so fails to
evaluate the context. That is, finding "Firefox" in the UA string is
treated as if the browser is Firefox.
Thus, my spoof
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4)
Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0, NOT Firefox/3.5.3
is treated by the Web server as if I were using Firefox, ignoring both
the "NOT" in front of the "Firefox" and the "SeaMonkey". Only a human
looking at the server's raw logs would notice that I'm really using
SeaMonkey. I must guess, however, that raw server logs are rarely if
ever seen by humans.
You know what my UA string says. I know what it says. But the software
on the Web server that is sniffing for the UA string doesn't know what
the whole string says; it only knows that it found "Firefox".
You know your browser is SeaMonkey 1.1.18. From what I see of your
toolbars, I believe you. But Web servers look at the UA string -- the
line just below the very large "SeaMonkey 1.1.18" -- and determine you
are using Firefox 2.0.0.7.
--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>
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