BJ wrote:
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Arne wrote:
JeffM wrote:
Arne wrote:
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There is worse examples of sites that do browser sniffing.

There is *no* need to sniff for *standards-compliant* browsers;
JUST CREATE STANDARDS-COMPLIANT PAGES.

Agree, was my post in any way defending any browser sniffing?
All I said, was that there is those sites who sniff but at least they
give the user an option to enter any way, other simply throw you out!

Is it just me, or isn't it incredibly stupid to design three or four or
five different versions of your site for three or four or five different
browsers because that takes two or three times as much labor? Why would
a web design firm allow their people to charge them two or three times
as much when they can simply require one compliant design?

While it is indeed "incredibly stupid" that design has to be doubled, or tripled, web pages are designed for end users. Designers have to accommodate end users and cannot control what browser a person uses.

And the web design firm simply passes on the cost to the page owner. So, this sad fact has an impact on the site owner, not the web design firm.

Notwithstanding a "best viewed with . . . " notice, you really have no choice but to accommodate all browsers IF you want everybody to be able to view your site.

In a perfect world, everybody would use FF/SM and multiple design would not be necessary. However, that's not reality.

The original vision of HTML was that the page would be coded to a standard and the various browsers would render it as their programmers and users thought best. But what we have now is a world in which certain browser publishers have enough weight in the marketplace that webmasters intentionally write nonstandard code for them, and that forces other browsers to devise ways of coping with these noncompliant pages.

I would be perfectly satisfied with a world in which multiple browsers competed for market share but websites were coded to W3C standards. That would be a level playing field and the best browser(s) would win.

And anyway, how is writing a single version of compliant code not "accommodating all browsers"? Are some browsers unable to display compliant pages?

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